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Discussion in 'Australia' started by davidgt4, Oct 24, 2005.

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  1. davidgt4

    davidgt4 Karting

    May 28, 2003
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    David W.
    Hi fellow F-chatters
    Hopefully enough time has elapsed since the Ashes series to allow a Pom to post on the Aussie forum....:)

    Superformance in the UK are selling the BSM electronic ignition conversion - something I am considering for my twin distributor '74 GT4. I gather BSM is Black Stallion Motors in Melbourne. Does anyone have any experience or views on their system?

    Thanks in anticipation.
     
  2. 348CH

    348CH Formula Junior

    Mar 2, 2004
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    The Reverend Dr.
    I think you can safely assume the answer is no...
     
  3. ferrarifixer

    ferrarifixer F1 Veteran
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    and you'd be wrong, because the answer is yes.

    Personally, I love points. When set properly, they work just as well, and you know that the worst thing to happen is an easy fix. But YES, they do need setting properly. Std distributors can also be cheaply modified to provide better performance, and the cost of the BSM system would pay for many sets of points and labour to set them up.

    I also don't really like the single coil, 8 pole "GMH" Clip on Distributor cap, and featureless billet distributor body... the engine bay looks a bit "kit car" and the electronic baulkhead drilling/fitting makes the boot space look a bit "got at"... but that's just my opinion.

    If you're having problems synchronising your twin distributors, and place no value on originality, then it's worth considering if you don't trust your shop/self to get it right.

    The BSM system is good and it works, but it's points for me and my customers.

    If I had a twin dizzy car and was having trouble, my preferred mod would be a single dizzy from a later UK type car... with twin coils to keep originality.
     
  4. 308

    308 Rookie

    Oct 26, 2005
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    David, The elecronic module is not built by BSM. They resticker the product and place there name on it, at an inflated price. I suggest you contact Contact Graeme Vincent 0418.308355 in Melbourne. I will look up his email address for you.
     
  5. 348CH

    348CH Formula Junior

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    Well I'm glad to see you got off your lazy pommy backside to answer this poor buggers questions...
     
  6. 348CH

    348CH Formula Junior

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    Congrats on your first post 308... :D
     
  7. injektilo

    injektilo Formula Junior

    Feb 22, 2005
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    I cannot believe that in all the time this board hes been going, our new user was the first to try the name 308!

    Maybe I should have tried Ferrari or Enzo or.......etc etc etc!
     
  8. Aircon

    Aircon Ten Time F1 World Champ
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    Wow...really? How did you know that? I had no idea talking to them that that was the case....and I've discussed it with them a few times. Who are you, anyway?
     
  9. gva

    gva Rookie

    Jul 16, 2004
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    Graeme Vincent

    Hi David,
    The same programmable advance ignition system is available @ $340.00 Aussie dollars, unit includes inbuilt ignition module.
    The BSM system makes use of a single aftermarket disy. Why not use you original disy? If your advance mechanism is in good condition, you could fit electronic ignition module, and HEI coil. Another option is to use Bosch mechanical advance using reluctor or module.
    Carburetor cars run to rich, electronic ign simply masks the faults by burning the excess fuel.
    Ignition points work fine when serviced correctly. Drive ability is improved
    With electronic. With the cost of points and labor go electronic.

    What’s the problem with your car? Why would you go with BSM single disy?

    [email protected]

    Regards
    Graeme
     
  10. davidgt4

    davidgt4 Karting

    May 28, 2003
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    David W.
    Thanks for the replys guys
    Up 'til now I had been happy to keep fiddling with my twin distributors - I like the originality aspect. However they are difficult to keep set up and I feel I am perhaps missing out on some "drivability" and consistency. I haven't made any decisions yet but was interested as the BSM set up is now being advertised here. More thinking to do over the winter!
     
  11. geeforty

    geeforty Karting

    Oct 29, 2004
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    Nigel M
    Just catching up with these posts, as I am interested in the BSM system (or possibly it's alternative source, I suppose some of the cost is the R&D time of getting the 308 advance curve in the unit? All depends how easy it is to program. Another thing to consider is that the unit is only single dimensional mapping - RPM only at the moment, other OEM manufacturers with similar 'mapped ignition' / alternative control of fueling often have a load input (vacuum or Throttle angle)

    Does anyone know where they are sourcing the replacement dizzy?

    Thanks
    Nigel.
     

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