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  1. Thomas Ruland

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    Can the system be bled without using a computer? The system only holds 1 quart of fluid if I am reading the manual correctly. Please direct me to the procedure if available, Thanks, Tom
     
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  2. tbakowsky

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    You need the scan tool.
     
  3. flash32

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    What are you trying to accomplish. Symptoms?

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  4. Thomas Ruland

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    Well, The paddles started responding intermittently. I checked fluid level when hot and running and the fluid level was pretty much level with the plate in resevior. I think that I need to add fluid, it may have sucked a little air. But the fluid also looks dirty in my opinion. I plan to suck out the fluid when cold and not running and do this a few times until I get the clean fluid and then fill to proper level.to see if this cures the problem. No obvious leaks anywhere that I have seen. 25K on the dial and I think the fluid is original. I do not plan to open any bleeders. Thanks for responding, Tom
     
  5. flash32

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    For a true bleed you do need some type of diag tool that is capable .. not many that do that cheap

    If you just want to change out some fluid ..you can open some connection joints near resovoir near clutch and near esiff ..it will automatically be pressure on it if key is on

    Just don't let it go low to suck in air



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  6. Thomas Ruland

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    Another early bird, I am in Fl. I do not plan to run the pump with fluid sucked out of resevior. I probably will let it settle over night a few days and suck it out each day for the refill.when cold and not running. Thanks again , Tom
     
  7. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

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    If you so it a few times you will change probably 80 percent of fluid ..just a guess

    Actually in Italy ..just left lambo factory and now heading to Ferrari factory

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  8. Thomas Ruland

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    I visited the Ferrari Factory a few years ago. Fantastic tour can't wait to go back. Venice was our fav. Have a great trip. If you get the chance I would recommend the Fiat 500 excursion in Florence, lots of fun. Travel Safe, T
     
  9. flash32

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    Thank you

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  10. 2NA

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    The "full" fluid level is only 5mm above the plate. This is measured with system ON and pressured up. If you add too much (it doesn't take much), it will gush out all over when it turns off. The reservoir is poorly designed. It should be a lot bigger.
     
  11. flash32

    flash32 Formula 3

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    Does it rise when turned off ?

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  12. Thomas Ruland

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    Yes it does.
     
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  13. Thomas Ruland

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    Yes, the fluid rises in the reservoir after it is shut down, I have sucked out and refilled the reservoir three times and I will do it once more time after it rises back to the top. I only add fluid when not running. I drove the car each time, shifts fine when cold ( up and down), but when it is up to op temp, it has trouble down shifting from 3-2. It just forgets what to do, (dementia) then I stop the car and it will go to 1 as normal. It appears to only have the trouble during this shifting scenario.
     

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