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  1. JoeZaff

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    They are great cars, especially for commuting. They are more nimble than the previous generation and more engaging to drive, but still not on the level of an E39 chassis. The BMW straight 6 is a gem, always has been, and the new one has some nice power to match. One big drawback---the driver assist is HORRIBLE. Its so bad, my local dealer disables it on loaner cars because they are afraid someone is going to get into an accident. It gets confused by various road markers and will jerk the wheel violently because it thinks you are leaving your lane. If you aren't ready for it, it will scare the crap out of you. The adaptive cruise control is also complete junk in that it drives with all the finesse of an alcoholic. If this is the best BMW can do, Tesla can sleep easy at night.

    I also have some gripes with material choices--- the center console cover is untrimmed along the edge so when it is open it looks like a rough cut piece of plastic, the aluminum look is not very convincing and the dash materials have definitely taken a step back, but this is more nitpicking--especially for a daily driver. All in all, its a really good car and an improvement over the previous generation.
     
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  2. tbakowsky

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    Make sure it has an extended warranty, or you purchase an aftermarket warranty. Nice cars, but when stuff goes south (especially the electronics) your wallet is in for a rough ride with zero lube.
     
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  3. Devilsolsi

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    Have done a bit more researching and I really thing BMW was just being lazy and saying it was the transfer case. My symptoms just don't match. Pulled the underbody plastic off and saw this very scored driveshaft.

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  4. tbakowsky

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    Driveshaft is rubbing on the heatsheild. Move it away, no issue.

    Front driveshaft is however well known for u-joint failure. They can be rebuilt contariy to BMW.
     
  5. Devilsolsi

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    Took a look at the u-joint as well. Symptoms I was looking for is the "red dust". There is some rust and corrosion, but i don't see what was described as u-joint wear. How much should the driveshaft move with the car in park?

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  6. tbakowsky

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    Take the shaft down and check it. It should move freely in all directions. It the only way to know.
     
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    hi, price???
     
  8. Bradwilliams

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    Sorry man, already paid it forward to bart12
     
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  10. MalcQV

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    I do like these a lot. I'd settle for a V8 840i
     
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  11. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    Love it. And the E38 next to it as well.

    I spent this past weekend reading up all about the E46 design failure. So sad as I love the design of that car...last good looking 3 series imo. I couldn't believe why BMW designed it that way...the rear subframe literally mounts to sheet metal (couple of them) and NOT the frame of the car. Hence why it cracks over time and in particular with cars driven harder (i.e. M3). The BMW solution was to inject resin that hardens to eliminate the space between the sheet metal panels, but it still didn't fix the issue as the subframe was still not connected to the frame. The aftermarket "reinforcement" plates don't do much either except shift load and cracking elsewhere on the panel. This is the panel and costs $7k to replace with labor, but will still crack over time: https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/rear-sub-frame-support-panel/41117000246/

    I've been looking for a 2003+ E46 wagon to do an S54 swap and that is now scaring me. Only solution I see is to weld in metal bracing back there to connect to the frame rails to subframe mounting points...almost like a crossbar/cage just for the rear.

    E46 and Z8 both with garbage chassis, but drop dead gorgeous design and nice engines...
     
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  12. bart12

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    My M5 is always ready to give me a smile.

    I added a GROM audio wireless bluetooth where all connections are hidden then added a iphone wired charger on the glove box so now its basically a more modern car.

    Then i added a LOUD version of a TUBI exhaust and its perfect. Actually, the loud version is not really loud like catless or a ferrari but gave it a growl which I like.

    Who cares about depreciation.

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  13. 19633500GT

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    I shouldn't of, but I did, LOL.

    Local guy had a 318is, just sitting, and I couldn't see it languish. Dragged it home, and gave it a detail.

    It needs to be 100'% restored.

    It irks me when people let this happen to their cars.

    I spent 5 hours just cleaning the interior this weekend.

    My daughter got home the other day, and goes "Daddy, I looooooveeee your hoopty!"

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  14. bart12

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    Thats a jewel.

    Bring her back to life!
     
  15. 19633500GT

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    Lol. I can’t! It was dumb. I shouldn’t have. My wife was like WTF!

    I didn’t even put it in the garage. It’s under a tarp lol. Banned to the outside!

    She semi wrote the ad earlier today. I got the “it’s eBay or basement sleeping” look ;)
     
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  16. bart12

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    Easy fix.

    Clean carpets, reupholster seats and doors.

    Buy new steering wheel and shift knob.

    Give a $3000 respray

    Refinish rims.


    You have now a nice cruiser e30 328is.

    Do each one every 3 months. In a year, its all done.
     
  17. PhilNotHill

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    I have owned several BMWs. 735i, 750iL, some M3s.

    Don’t own any now bcuz it is 3.5 hour drive to Denver for service. Now l own Audi S4 and an S5 Convertible as we have a dealer 45 minutes from Aspen.

    Also own a 458 Spider. Ferrari of Denver picks it up for service and delivers it back. Actually cheaper than driving to Denver and staying in a hotel. We used to do this when my wife was into Denver shopping. Now she buys things on line.

    I do miss the BMWs but not worth the hassle of making the trip to Denver anymore.
     
  18. 19633500GT

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    I think body work alone and just getting it prepped for paint would cost $3-5K. Then paint cost on top

    Rims I could have done for less than $500 maybe.

    Brakes, lines and etc. easily $750+

    Can’t clean the carpets or headliner. All would need to be ripped out. The musty ness wouldn’t go away. So new interior kit there.

    Now the engine and gearbox. To make it “right” I think I’d easily spend another $3-4K here

    I think I’d spend $15-20K to have a $15K car.

    The rust is the scariest part, once that starts getting fixed, it seems to never end!
     
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  19. bart12

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    I would do paint work last.

    This is a project that to make it worth your while needs to stay with you. Yo dont do this and sell it back, you dont get anything. It needs to be done right.

    But this would only work for me if I do it in long stages.

    You have a dilapidated car already, what more can you loose?

    Its a marathon. not a sprint.
     
  20. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    The new Alpina B3 looks incredible...wish we got it in the US. But of course any cool wagon will never make it here...
     
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  21. GuyIncognito

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    my first car was a black E30 coupe. shame to see that one so neglected. now I feel old :(
     
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  22. Bradwilliams

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    #1797 Bradwilliams, Sep 12, 2019 at 9:37 PM
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    I'm probably all in with my 740 short for $18 grand. Still waiting for that breather year or two where I can just enjoy the car without the obligatory issue every 4-6 months. This is year six so 18 over 6 years isnt too bad. The good news is that it is an uber clean no excuses car despite the high miles. Bought it for 7 thousand. It would have been 4 if it weren't imola :)

    I really think these are smart buys with higher mileage. If you find a well looked after car with 150,000 or more on it and the motor is still whisper quiet at idle then you'll never have to tear down the motor or do the guides. I don't trust these cars with less. Every time I see a car with the toasted engine and guides gone the car has 120-140 on it. It all depends on how the car was maintained. These cars can go 400-500k on original guides with simple tune ups and no major engine service. The only other option is to buy a cream puff but now you're talking $15-20 grand people want for them, and those cars will need another 15 grand in work in a matter of 2-3 years. Terrible value for a used car unless you're going to use the car for a garage ornament.
     

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