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  1. Bob Parks

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    I can't believe that I started working in the 777 program 28 years ago! Doesn't seem that long ago! When we were told that the airplane would be designed ALL ON THE COMPUTER, the response was ,"Yeah, that won't happen". But that's exactly what happened. THAT was a great program and managed by some great people and produced a great airplane.
     
  2. tazandjan

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    Bob- That is when Desert Shield started, so both of us have reason to remember 1990.
     
  3. Gatorrari

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    I headed to Seattle to work on the 777 in June 1991, so as you say, it will be 28 years in June. I'll admit that it doesn't seem that long ago. I still think of the 777 as a "new airplane"!
     
  4. Bob Parks

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    Taz, I think that you may have had a bit more excitement than I did at that time. Where were you and what were you doing?
     
  5. Bob Parks

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    I do too.
     
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    Bob- We took the first contingent of F-111Fs to Taif, Saudi Arabia in August 1990. Loaded with GBU-15s and GBU-24s, plus external fuel tanks, because there were no PGMs in Saudi Arabia that early in Desert Shield. We were escorted there non-stop by KC-10s, which carried our support personnel and a bunch of spare parts. Around 10 hours for the trip, with multiple aerial refuelings.
     
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    As a kid I flew on a Delta Convair 880.

    Recently, I had the Convair postcard I collected, in my room.
     
  8. Bob Parks

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    Yeah, we had fun once in a while. That FlyThru tool identified a lot of interferences and was invaluable in getting everything installed. I may have mentioned it before but the first time we put everything , wheel well, wheel well doors, and landing gear, into the CATIA to check the retraction of the main landing gear, the math that was being done in micro seconds when all that stuff was put into motion bowled me over. We did find some interferences, too. The same thing was done with the TE flap retraction sequence. Incredible!
     
  9. Gatorrari

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    Better to find the interferences in the computer before finding them in the real parts. That was the real beauty of the electronic mockup. I understand that when they actually put ship #1 together, it fit like a glove.
     
  10. Bob Parks

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    Correct, Jim.The computer knocked off many months of manual design and a physical mock up to iron out all the kinks. It went right the first time.We got rid of the full size Master Model because all the lofting data was in the computer and physical stretch form dies, drill jigs, trim jigs, etc. were eliminated . They were digitally all there for the taking. When we tried to produce some parts in CATIA for the 747, they didn't fit because of the disparity in tolerances. The 747 was .03, the CATIA was 0.00, effectively. That entire program was an absolute joy to be a part of.
     
  11. Jaguar36

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    Flythru has been replaced by a new (well new as of like 2006) in house program, IVT on the commercial side. Defense side uses a Siemens product that similar. They both kinda suck though. Takes far to long to load the stuff that you need. Most of the time having a nice well done iso view would be sufficient and its a heck of alot quicker and easier to just look at drawing hanging on your wall.

    The interference stuff is all great... as long as the designers use it.
     

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