Don't see the 88 pin version...but I didn't look very hard either DIYPNP Bosch 55pin Unassembled Kit DIYAutoTune.com
https://boschelectronicservice.eu/uk/special-price-offers/mp-5-2_0261204061 Maybe they can sell you just the plug
Sorry not started ...just getting prepared. Will do the changeover when engine out in a few months. Am not changing the hundreds of connectors in the ecu's...only changing the 2 and 3 pin connectors dotted around the motor...injectors, crank sensors, temp senders, potentiometers, solenoid for bypass valve and air injection, etc.....mainly because the rubber boots on my harness are perishing and the new boots in the GCKit look very tight and robust...good excuse to clean up all the connectors as well. Btw...my engine runs great with no warning lights ...57500 miles.
That is not the same plug as OEM. The OEM pins (and the replacements in the GCK) have two locking ears that fit into a lock either side of the end of the pin. The plug in the picture has only one slot for the ear to lock into not two. I bought some of those plugs myself from that supplier as I thought new connectors may be nice, they are still in the bag. After removing the pins, I cleaned all my plugs in an ultrasonic cleaner which gave them the as new look. Image Unavailable, Please Login
Great I just ordered and paid for 15 of these plugs that will not be used. Bad advice yet again from a forum....johnk Thanks Terry anyways.
Yes they will fit but they are not right for the reasons I stated above. Perhaps just me being fussy.
I would want my connector pins to be held in the plug by both ear tabs not just one. Will report when i have a plug in my hand how firmly a connector pin with 2 ear tabs is held in place.
lotusk, if you find that these do not function as you would like than I apologies for saying they are the same. But functionally they are the same. You will not be able to remove the pins from the housing w/o some kind of extraction tool with out damaging the housing and/or the pins, the pin, correctly installed with be properly aligned to make connection to their male counter parts, they will lock onto the injectors or sensors as they should and once installed, electrical contact will be dependent only of the quality of the crimps and the type of pins selected, be they tin, gold, single spring, double spring, etc.
No worries johnk.... It will be fine. I will let you know how the pins fit in these plugs....i'm sure u are right in saying that the plugs will connect to the male plug on the motronic harness perfectly. I have the gold pins and lots to spare so i will plug one in and see how it looks.
AMP / Bosch 88-Way connector for the Life Racing F88 series. Kit includes:- 88 female terminals sealing boot backshell locking screw Also works with Pectel SQ6 engine management system as well as other engine management systems with the 88-way connector. AMP / Bosch 88-Way Connector Kit Image Unavailable, Please Login
I received the new 2 pin and 3 pin plugs and they do indeed have only 1 recess to hold the female connector with its 2 locating tabs. The connectors fit inside these plugs with a reassuring click and cannot be removed without an extraction tool that pushes down on the locating tab and thus freeing it. My concern is that it looks like with only 1 tab to secure the connector may not be in the dead center of the plug so not allowing a good and proper fitting to the male part of the plug once the two plugs are joined together....but i may be wrong here. Should be noted though that in the Scuderia's GCK manual advice is given for fitting the connectors into a plug with only 1 recess and a 1 pronged extraction tool is provided. They state that some models use the 1 recess plug, whilst others 2. I think these new plugs are good to have as backup in case any of the originals on the harness are damaged in trying to remove the old connectors. Here's where I bought them...lots of good stuff on this site...excellent service as well... http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/Timer_Connectors.html
I would not be concerned about centering. That is going to be primarily a function of the male pin sliding into the female. The locking tab is only to hold the female pin in the casing. Frankly, if I were doing this job I would not bother using the old casings. There are old, have been subject to high temperatures, and probably brittle. I would just snip the wires and use the new casings and pins. Extracting the old pins is just a waste of time and effort with no added advantage, other than originality, if that is an advantage. (And it makes the DIYer think he is saving lots of money on labor by doing it himself. )
Boy Talk about pricing mystery... If i would have bought all the components in the GCK scuderia rampante supremo kit from this UK source excepting the tool that slides the boot over the harness i would have spent about 300 USD. Does anyone know why the cost from Dave was about 5 times this? Not complaining would just like to know if there is something uber special and expensive with the gold plated connectors.
Lots of claims about custom made, higher clamping force and other things, none of which have been documented. Still, the value doesn't seem to go with the price, IMO. JPT pins you can buy from places like Digi Key and Mouser come in several varieties. One option is with or without external springs. Whether they have greater, the same, or less clamping force than what SRI offers, one thing is for sure, the ones with external springs have significantly greater clamping force than the OEM pins. So if the OEM ones lasted 18-20 years, the new ones with external springs ($0.25-$0.50 each depending on whether tin or gold) should last significantly longer. The SRI kit is what it is. If that's what you want then that's what you should buy. But being aware there are other options only seems sensible.
I wasn't aware of the possibilities to source these items when I bought from SRI. Oh well.... You pays your monies, you make your choice. Guess Mr Helms has made plenty on these kits...mind you a lot of work must have gone into sourcing all the tools, etc....the kit is very well put together...right down to Q tips and a sachet of grease!.....- and his service is excellent. Not moaning Just sayin'
It's simple, he's put it all together and eliminated the legwork, guesswork, and supports it. He knows what his knowledge and time are worth and is willing to charge what he believes is an appropriate amount for it. You can do it yourself and save money, but you will invest additional time and will not have his technical support. Is Dave being fair or is he overpriced? Only those who are purchasing can really answer that question. Personally, I don't think that Dave is marking it up unfairly, he knows that running a business and making a profit (especially on small volume production) requires a significant markup. Unless you have run your own business before it's hard to understand how much money is really needed to support operations like Dave's. He is smart and charging what he believes that the market will support and the value he believes he is bringing to the table. Criticize with your wallet, not words. Mark
