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  1. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Well said!

    Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. People can imitate but are they getting the same thing? Maybe. The SRI kit is proven. It is a real tedious PITA to do all the connectors in your car. It takes hours over days because it is a tedious job where you want perfection. Do you want to go with the proven or go cheap and see if it works? How do you know if cheap works if you have not sampled the SRI kit? Positive changes are subtle but distinct. So few really know how a good car feels. How many times have we seen on this board the phrase "my car runs great" on a 355 only to find out the leakdown in 20% on a couple of cylinders? We have those idiot slowdown ecus because people don't know their cars are running on 4 cylinders!

    I was one of Dave's GCK beta testers. I know about other peoples pins, boots etc. Heck ERNIE posted his cheapo connector kit supplies years ago and an update to his first connector kit thread just a short time ago yet I still recently purchased a second SRI GCK with no discount full price just like you. Am I an idiot? maybe. I am guilty of being lazy and Dave has done all the work and supports the product. One phone call and product is at my door.

    We have had diy'ers including pro shops totally botch pin position. Who is spending the time to unravel that on the phone for free? Dave! We have had people swap connectors and got MIL's. Who sorts that for free? Dave! We have had people destroy pins and need extra. Who has supplied those for free? Dave! We have had a guy screw up the ECU white plug. Who sent another one for free? Dave! Who answers the simple questions like how to hold the wire, pin, and seal and work the crimper at the same time? Dave! Who will listen to your ideas to improve the kit for the next guy do the kit is ever evolving and making your Ferrari better? Dave! Do I need any of that? Nope. But I still buy from Dave because he has a proven product with support if I need it. There is value there.

    John thinks the OEM pins lasted 18 years but in reality the cars were having electrical problems before they left the showroom floor. Ferrari electricals are flawed from the start. Age only made them worse. We evolved from cleaning connectors to stabilant-22, to changing pins and connectors. There is so much more to do. Guys like Goth are quietly unlocking 355 potential. Dave has abandoned Fchat but he is also quietly doing great things not only with the 355 but across the Ferrari line.

    How can a tiny fledgling shop like Gothspeed produce more horsepower and torque with better F1 sound out of a 355 than Tubi, Ferrari, or others who make hundreds of exhausts with a fleet of engineers? How can SRI get the long-term results that Fchat engineers say just isn't possible? They are doing it my friends and a few of use are very thankful.
     
  2. spider348

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    Well stated FBB! I have Dave's GCK, Hoses as well. When I tore my 355 motor down, sent the heads to Dave. Dave is an invaluable asset.
     
  3. drbob101

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  4. johnk...

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    Best I know the SRI kit does not include the plastic housings. Just pins, boots and tools, right? Part of the PITA is extracting the old pins form the housings. And please don't start in on "the old housings are better". The old boots need to be replaced because they are typically deteriorating due to heat. That heat is also affecting the plastic housings. Replacing them would be the better, simpler way to go, IMO. Perhaps unnecessary, but certainly simpler since no pin extraction is required for most of the connectors.

    As for the proven nature of the SRI kit the only possible significant difference between SRI kit and what you can buy elsewhere is the clamping force of the pins. If someone wants to send me a sample of an SRI pin I will compare the clamping force to that of a TE JPT pin. And let's not forget that at least one FChatter has completely redone his harness with JPT pins and had a good result. So unproven? I don't agree. And I'm pretty sure that FChatter didn't even use gold plated pins.

    No body is questioning Dave's knowledge or his generosity in offering verbal assistance. The only question is value, and the issue of mismatched metals which I see no point in rehashing, and won't comment on further. As for whatever problems the 355 has electrically, assuming that is an accurate statement, if it is connector related then it must affect a vast number of automobiles from a wide variety of manufactures around the world since these Bosch EV1 type connectors were used almost universally across the industry. And I am quite sure the majority of the 12000 F355s produced have not had the SRI kit, or any other connector kit installed. Heck, and $1500/kit even with modest 3x mark up that would net $12,000,000. A nice nest egg.

    See, FBB, when you come on here and start preaching, promoting, defending, well, that is why some people start to feel you have an attitude problem or are disingenuous. If the SRI kit was marketed by someone who was not held up as a Ferrari demigod by some here on FChat, an alternative costing mush less would be celebrated by all. It is only because it is an SRI product that you and others attempt to discredit less costly solutions which accomplish the same result.This perpetuates an environment in which the naïve are taken advantage of. This is suppose to be a community where owners of these cars can openly discuss problems and the solutions to them. And when more cost effective solution which address the same problem with the same potential degree of success it should be embraced rather than attempting to discredit because it is in conflict with somebodie's hero.
     
  5. yelcab

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    We don't need to be doing this, again!
     
  6. Dave rocks

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    Very well said, John!
     
  7. lotusk

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    All makes very mature, logical sense to me.
     
  8. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Mitchell I agree and I’m tired of that debate too. We can save the republican vs. democrat scenario for P&R.

    John thank you for the demi-god status. I am all for lesser alternatives when I am convinced they work. Maybe when more of you try the less expensive way I will change my mind. So far there appears to be more good working SRI cars that seem to prove the concept.
     
  9. ernie

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    Exactly!
     
  10. SoCal1

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  11. Dave rocks

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  12. jimmym

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    Tim, you better not let your wife see this thread.:D
     
  13. SoCal1

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    Hey... This would be the kindest thing I said to her all year :)
     
  14. taz355

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    So I bought some jpt plugs to build jumpers to go between a bunch of components like injectors, cam phase, temp etc but mouser site is big and I do not know what I should order for the 2 and 3 wire plugs.
    Could someone point me in the correct direction for part numbers.
    My connectors have 2 distinct sizes what I would call a small and a large and have both male and female.
    And I would prefer gold unless they are way more money as I only need about 30 of each size
    Thanks
     
  15. yelcab

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    JPT pins:JPT pins: mouser electronics: 571-2-964286-1 Manufacturer part number 2-964286-1

    Micro JPT pins: Mouser electronics: 571-964274-3, Manufacturer part number 964274-3
     
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