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Boxer Clamshell Fit Question

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by pmichaelg, Sep 7, 2012.

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  1. pmichaelg

    pmichaelg Formula Junior

    Apr 21, 2006
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    Over the years I’ve noticed a range in the fit of both front and rear clamshells to the body of Boxers. I am talking about the gaps/spacing/alignment which either shows a good flush fit or large gaps between it and the body.

    How big of an issue is this?

    A number of explanations come to mind but I really have no idea what is closest to reality:

    • These are hand built cars and this is to be expected on some. If you love Boxers, learn to live with it.
    • This is not a problem – all clamshells get out of alignment over time. It is a minor adjustment and simple to align properly.
    • That is a major issue and likely a sign of poor collision repair. I would never consider a Boxer showing alignment issues.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. ferraripete

    ferraripete F1 World Champ

    almost always the first two...but of course the third is possible.
     
  3. Spitfire

    Spitfire Formula 3

    Nov 16, 2006
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    Another possibility, I suppose, is that there's so much frame rot in the front supporting structure that it has all started to sag. Newman's 19271 restoration was off by 8mm once the fiberglass was removed, thus leaving the front frame exposed and doing all of the "lifting" by itself.
     
  4. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    Verify the triangular mount flanges on the 4 hinges all line up with the flanges on the clamshells. When the car is new, they all line up like they are laminated together. If the lid is ever removed where its retained with the nuts and bolts, simply match up those plates and the lid will be aligned. If they are lined up and the clamshells dont fit right then something has changed.
     
  5. Mario Pano

    Mario Pano Formula Junior

    May 24, 2006
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    Both shells on the Boxer are able to flex a lot when one opens them by them selves from one side usually the drivers side since this is where the side of the car you will be standing to operate the releases.
    Frequent openings will have the tendency to effect perfect alignment if done by one person on the same side as they will start picking up a flex created by that side only.
    Also the placement of the air filters under the rear bonnet are under certain pressure against the rear bonnet when closed for proper fit.
    It is not a good idea if needed to be opened often to keep them down with out being fully closed as this will effect their shape over time ever so slightly.
    The remedy is to keep them always shut all the way after opening and alignment will always stay proper.
    It is also a good idea to have two people when possible lifting on both sides when opening and let free fall shut when closing after lowering real close to shut.
    Removing the hinges instead of unbolting the rear when removal is necessary for service will keep them always aligned.
    I have seen lots of original cars on photos and in person in the eighties with out ever having any damage with minute imperfections at the rear left where all lift the rear when needed and is caused by flex.
    When you evaluate a car you look at the paint to know if original and of course expect a fit as good as you will see in most photos printed when the cars were new.

    Mario
     
  6. pmichaelg

    pmichaelg Formula Junior

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    Paul - thanks for the note on the flanges. I was able to look over a friend's Boxer this past weekend and now see what you are talking about.

    Mario - thanks for the pointers. Definitely something to keep in mind.

    I may have some specific questions on a car if things pan out so please stay tuned.
     
  7. Newman

    Newman F1 World Champ
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    You'll also find the build sequence number on those hinges (all 4) which should match the number stamped in the rear frame upper cross bar. The rest of the build numbers require some disassembly.
     
  8. Rock

    Rock Formula 3

    Nov 9, 2003
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    the clam shells usually fit very well, poor fitting clam shells are a sign of major collision damage.
     
  9. 2dinos

    2dinos F1 Rookie

    Jan 13, 2007
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    I too believe the first 2. I've seen more that have imperfect fits than otherwise.
     

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