Good day All, Just adding a few more data points from yesterday's Monterey auctions: Chassis 31359 - 1980 512BB Sold for $151.2K USD (Barn Find) https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo23/monterey/lots/r0076-1980-ferrari-512-bb/1358244 https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/1980-ferrari-512bb-chassis-31359.680896/ Chassis 27117 - 1979 512BB Sold for $240.8K USD https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/mo23/monterey/lots/r0115-1979-ferrari-512-bb/1361526 https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/1979-ferrari-512bb-chassis-27117.670305/ Cheers, Sam
Good day George, Assuming all the mechanical bits are OK and rebuildable, at the auction's sale price there is a lot of budget left to sort out the car to the level that an owner wants. The only negative would be the time to do the work! Cheers, Sam
Good day All, Just another data point... Chassis 37055 (1981 512BB) sold today on Bat for $245K which was down considerably when it was a no sale for $281K earlier this year. https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/threads/1981-ferrari-512bb-chassis-37055.677167/ https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1981-ferrari-512-bb-2-2/ Cheers, Sam
Good day All, Just another... and amazing data point... 1975 365BB Chassis 18227 sold today for $500365 USD https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1975-ferrari-365-gt4-bb-2/ Cheers, Sam
Love the detail of the price. Never bid an even number. Clever bid Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Peopel are developing broader taate, the world does not need yet another cliche red Ferrari. 365 BBs like periscopo countaches have always fetched premium, if one is really well restored, well its 200-250k in resto to start. Good to see boxers getting a cpull though.
Might be quite a few folks thumbing through the back catalogue ...with the current line up of new Ferraris on sale..and upcoming models?
Good day Sean, Although $500K is a solid number, I wonder if the amount actually covered the the total cost of the car and resto? That said, seeing this and perhaps other restored Boxers selling at these prices will open the eyes to the wider and somewhat fickle collectors? Cheers, Sam
if that was the case, all boxer owners should invest on a good $35-$50k cool color paint job, and their cars automatically will appreciate $200k. Not a bad idea. Lol
the condition of that car was excellent of course....however i strongly believe that verde germoglio is so unusual (and somewhat divisive) that if it was the original color, then it was definitely part of the price. i am neutral on this issue btw, in case people thought i was impugning the color choice.
Good day All, Just adding a bit of a doc and a pic... Asking price of CHF 650 000 (approx $750K USD) Sadly, no chassis number. However, it has been for sale at least since 2022-03-02, as I first found it then at the same dealer. Cheers, Sam Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The verde car was not restored, just repainted. While it was well presented, the condition was decent but left a lot to be desired. A nut and bolt restoration will run 350-400k these days. I think a fully done car would do even more.
Good day Chris, Thanks for the correction. For some reason I had thought it was restored, my apologies for the confusion. As for a fully (properly) restored BB sale price... My memory is weak these days, as I do not recall seeing or hearing of any sales in recent times. Have you or anyone else heard of any sales of such restored examples? It would be interesting to know what the price level would be for such a car. Sadly, the term "restored" is a relative term and has different meanings and results depending upon who is doing the restoring... and so resell prices can also vary too. Cheers, Sam
One thing were seeing is a big spread, from low 200s to 500k. Thats related to series and condition. Nevertheless there are enough cosmetically really good boxers, that adding 100k in sorting mechanical resto etc gets a fantastic car. Still the sale prices are such that if you add a chunk of change to a boxer, youre unlikely to get it back. however to drive, there is nothing else below 500k in the ferrari world that comes close. id say you vae to get to a 275 at 3-4 mill, and even then tis different. of the classic Ferrari experience in a mid engined car, theres the boxer and 288. The F40 not so much a road car, and the Trs are lacking in classical design, and abut too big heavy long etc to sit in the same group, though theyre close. 308s look nice but have no go, and dinos are great but a rung or two down in the performance stakes. if you cant afford a 288, and even if you can and want a car to use, the boxer is arguable better looking, has similar performance(when sorted) and costs a fraction.
Hi Sam, I am not aware of any completed nut and bolt restored Boxers other than mine and therefore not aware of any sales. I can only say that I have sold three cars that I fully restored: a S3 Countach, a Miura P400, and a 75 930 and they all achieved about $250k above what nice average cars were bringing in a much less dynamic market than today. Today those premiums would be higher on both the Countach and Miura. It takes the right buyer to understand the value of a high quality restoration and the time and money it takes to get a car to that level. My Boxer is staying with me for the long haul and so we won’t be putting this into practice again here!
Having put over 3k KM on my F40 in 18 months, I can confidently say the F40 is 100% a road car and the best one ever made, full stop. The Boxer is also an incredible car and a better driving experience than most anything out there. It remains the best value in the car world.
The F40 is an amazing road car. But the Boxer is also incredible and part of a true 12 cylinder experience. A Boxer, F40, and 288 would make for an amazing three Ferrari road car lineup. All that’s needed is a 308 Group 4 car to round out the (period correct) experience.
I have not driven though I don’t see it topping an F40 and have many with experience in both confirm the same.
