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  1. BRADAN

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  3. swift53

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    I am happy to see such extensive documentation of what lies underneath a nice coat of paint. You guys are doing a great job.

    Personally, I have arrived at the conclusion that if I were to pay top dollar for a shiny car, I would expect to see documentation of what was performed as far as the preparation to that end look.

    Everything else, is strictly speculation and or good faith.

    Nothing like doing things properly.

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Alberto,

    I appreciate the kind comments and fully agree. We never expected this much to be found under the paint.
     
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    Mine....

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    The picture reminds me of a Tim Burton character
     
  7. swift53

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    :)
     
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  9. Pantdino

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    Do you mean those specific headlight covers, or any at all?
    My understanding is that covers were an option fitted by dealers in the UK and that they made the marginal headlights of the era even worse by scattering light. Stuff tends to get thru the gaps around the edges so you have to take them off every so often to clean it out.
     
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    My understaning is that these cars were hand made by beating a panel over a wooden buck, after which plastic filler was applied by apprentices to make the surface smooth.
    There were no giant presses stamping out perfectly smooth parts for these cars.

    They came from the factory with a thin coat of plastic filler on much of the car and if that is what you are seeing it is not accident damage.
     
  11. nerodino

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    I Beg to differ! I took my car to this level (the ONLY way to restore one properly i might add) and it did not look as bad as this one........there are some fairly hefty repairs to this shell.
    Graham
     
  12. 2GT

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    Lead was used in certain areas, such as the rear quarter panels around the fender scoops and the flying buttresses, but when one of my Dinos was stripped to bare metal, no factory-applied plastic filler was found. Fred
     
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    Then that car had been stripped to bare metal before as they all had the awful light yellow filler on from the factory as far as i know.
     
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    My yellow filler had fallen off with the holes ;)

    Regards, Alberto
     
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    Graham, what I am saying is that if they are seeing a thin coat of filler over much of the car, that thin coat does not represent accident damage. Thick layers of filler over metal which has been drilled so it can be pulled out into shape is another matter.
     
  16. JCR

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    It was most likely what is referred to as "high build primer".
     
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    Sorry for my confusion......yes i understand. That filler coat was the worst thing i have ever had to remove. Was it a cellulose based product?
     
  18. 2GT

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    Exactly. It was yellow primer, which my car did have. All cars, particularly hand-built cars, have multiple primer coats. However, Dino bodies were never slathered in plastic filler, to my knowledge, at Scaglietti's body works. Fred
     
  19. Pantdino

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    Are high build primer and plastic filler chemically different? In other words, if you analyzed dried samples of each could you tell which was which?

    Whether you spray on several layers of high build primer and sand it smooth or apply thin layers of filler and do the same, is there a concrete difference in the end result?

    Actually I'm not being argumentative-- I would like to know the truth for myself.

    When did high build primers come into use?
    I don't recall ever reading about them in the 1970's
     
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    Do you rebuild the shocks or add refreshed springs etc?
     
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    Rebuild. Photos of the process will be posted.
     

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