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Brake pad recommendation for track (HPDE)

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  1. SCKOMS

    SCKOMS F1 Rookie
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    Looking for recommendations for pads for "track day" use. I have used EBC Yellow in the past and have been happy with them. I am currently looking at getting the EBC Orange for the next track day event, but I know others like Pagid have been mentioned.

    What are the best options?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. FFan5

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    Depends on the car and track. I tracked a 3000lb 550hp car at COTA, and EBC blue wasn't enough. I'd go through a set of pads in one day. Pagid Rs29's were more expensive, but miles better. I got two track days from a set and far better consistency.

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  3. fatbillybob

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    I like the carbotech XP 8 to 24 series. Each step is more aggressive if you will than the next. You can mix and match a different compound on rears and fronts and effect the bias. Numbers are logical so it is easy to remember which way to go. I also have not had problems with pad transfer swapping pads in the range while I dinked around with finding what worked for my racecar or switching from racepads XP16/12 on my 550 to xp10/8 for the street. Interestingly, I have found the cold grip just fine (out of laziness) so now I just run the racepads on the street in the 550. I run xp24's on my 3500lb racecar and can get heat into them on the warmup lap so that I have perfect braking for turn 1 at the start of any race. Some pads you really have to watch the operational temperature range or the performance gets unpredictable. Carbotechs seem just plan work from the turn of the key stone cold to smoking red brake rotors.
     
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  4. Need4Spd

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    You guys talking about pads for iron or carbon ceramic rotors?


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  5. SCKOMS

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    Good point. Iron in my case.

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  6. bellwilliam

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    if op is using EBC now, I am guessing they are for iron rotors.

    +1 what fatbillybob says. Carbotech / G-Loc (essentially the same pads) is considered one of the best in racing circle. reason is for the release. brake release is what determines corner entry yaw angle. having a good brake release is a must for entry speed
     
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  8. SCKOMS

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    To clarify regarding the different grip for the front and rear, are you placing he more aggressive pads on the front?
     
  9. Mitch Alsup

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    I have been pretty satisfied with Ferodo DS2500 pads on my F355 for track use with street tires.
    I get 5 track weekends (8-9 days of lapping) on a set of pads,
    And I get 30± lapping days on a set of rotors,
    While lapping within 2 seconds of the lap record* at TWS.

    (*) 3000+ pound cars with 400-HP on street (non-R-compound) tires.
     
  10. tomkatf

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    I've used Carbotech pads and TarOx rotors on my vintage race cars and have been very happy...
    Oops, Outlaw calipers too...
     

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