Hello, I need to change my brake pads.. A lot of squealing and screaming What should I go with? EBC or OEM? Thanks!
If all the Brake-Dust frustrates you, you should look into Dust-free brake pads from Performance Friction..I had them on my 360 and now on my 430....you don't have to keep cleaning your wheels after each ride. Just as info
The Dust-free I just installed from PERFORMANCE FRICTION are named on inv: 7780 Z-RATED BRAKE PAD SET...
Update. After living with them for a bit, I no longer recommend StopTech street performance pads for 360s/430s. They squeak too much! Tried every trick but no joy. Even after bedding and use on the track, and a couple thousand miles, they squeak. This was a surprise, as they worked well on my BMWs. Going to try Girodisc Magic Pads next, on the recommendation of several friends. According to Girodisc:
Does it go away for a bit with one hard brake, or is it always there? I keep track pads on the rears, so I get a bit of a squeak here and there.
Anything that Martin at Girodisc recommends I would try with blind eyes. Martin is a very big supporter of the Ferrari Racing community and the quality of all the products I have acquired from him exceed the OEM stuff by several orders of magnitude. Great prices too, and even greater support.
So now I'm a bit dumbfounded. I swapped in the Girodiscs for the StopTech pads, tried bedding them, and the squeak is worse, really loud. Granted, all my prior brake experience was with floating caliper designs (BMWs), but I've cleaned everything, put brake pad paste on the backs, every trick I know and you can hear the squeals into the next county. I'm guessing the Brembo fixed calipers are more finicky, and I'm probably going to answer my own question, but is it a "must" to resurface or install new rotors to avoid the squeal? Are there any other tricks to these braking systems?
I've got new pads and rotors - all OEM Brembo stuff. My mechanic bedded the arrangement. Guess what? The damn thing still squeaks. Oh well - whatever. FWIW, my Mercedes-Benz S550 squeaked from DAY 1 brand new!
Depends on the compound change. I think it's good practice to resurface the discs to remove the old pad deposits which might conflict with the new material. I put pfc pads on a rotor that had stock pads deposits and had terrible screeching. Now I go back and forth between different carbotech pads and since they are compatible (based on the same basic recipe) there is no problem. I assume you tried aggressively bedding the new pads?
I assume the pistons and boots don't have anything on them, like dirt, small rocks, etc. that might be causing some noise? Cleaning everything and then I like the copper stuff on the backs of the pads, and the purple permatex on the pins and clips (part that touches pin and a light coat on the side towards the pad. I have a squeek now and then, but I have street pads on the front and xp10 track pads on the rear. A little squeek just hints you are using more aggressive pads!
Yes, I did aggressive bedding and did the things you mention. No rocks or other debris. It only squeals on light pedal application, as when easing to a stop at an intersection. Heavy application is quiet. I think I just have to bite the bullet and either resurface or replace the rotors. At 25k miles, they're probably due anyway.
Update. I guess fixed caliper brakes (as contrasted with floating calipers found on most BMWs, etc.) are just more sensitive to rotor imperfections. Installed new StopTech rotors in front and resurfaced the rears, and they're quiet now. The rotors are StopTech AeroRotors®. According to StopTech: http://www.stoptech.com/products/rotors Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I'm running Girodisc Magicpads and StopTech cross-drilled AeroRotors. So far I really like the combo.
Comparison of StopTech street performance pads and Girodisc Magicpads: The Magicpads produce less dust on the wheels (hardly any after a quite spirited drive today, where there would be a noticeable amount of dust with StopTechs), but they have a bit lower brake torque, requiring more pedal effort. Given that I had run both sets of pads on less than perfect rotors before, I'd say they are both about the same on noise, which is to say they are quiet when used with new or trued up rotors. They both have good bite when cold, but the StopTechs seem to have more (which is consistent with the fact they have more brake torque when warm, too). I never ran into fade problems with the StopTech pads on the track. Haven't gone to the track yet with the Girodisc pads.
