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Brake squeal on 2000- 550

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  1. Robert Lupo

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    My brakes squeal when coming to a stop.
    Any suggestions?
     
  2. 308 GTB

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    You might have reached the brake pad wear indicators. When were your brake pads last changed?
     
  3. maranello72

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    That's normal on the 550!

    Stefano
     
  4. dakharris

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    I upgraded with the Novitec kit. Eliminating the factory calipers and rotors is guaranteed to eliminate the squealing brakes.
     
  5. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

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    Really?

    In most cases putting anti-seize on the backing plate of the pad to reduce any vibration between the piston and the backing plate has done the trick for me.

    Philip
     
  6. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    A pad change to Porterfields will usually do the trick. If anybody likes squealing brakes, I have a set of FHP pads you can try. They really squeal until bedded properly, then only occasionally.
     
  7. naparsei

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    Terry,
    What makes the FHP pads different from the "regular" pads?
    Thanks,
    Alex
     
  8. atlshaver

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    I have the same car. A change to Poterfields got rid of it.
     
  9. tazandjan

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    Alex- They are Pagid Orange 4-4 racing pads. Stopping power was the main criteria, not noise. Once thoroughly bedded, the squeal tended to mostly go away. Only the fronts squeal. My rear FHP brakes are still on with 21,500 miles on the pads and they never squeal.
     
  10. naparsei

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    Terry,
    Is the only difference (in terms of braking) between the FHP and the "normal" 550 the brake pads? Perhaps they weren't bedded correctly, but my fronts sound - as someone else here put it - like a subway train stopping.
    Thanks again,
    Alex
     
  11. tazandjan

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    Alex- You may have FHP on your car if they squeal that much. Measure the diameter of the rear anti-roll bar. FHP has a 21 mm bar that measures 21.5 mm with paint. Normal is 17 mm. Or look at the tag on the rear spring. FHP springs are 175887.
     
  12. naparsei

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    Terry,
    It appears I was unintentionally opaque. My car was definitely optioned with FHP; my question was more around the aspect of brake squeal - in terms of the brake system, is the only difference between an FHP car and non-FHP car the pads? I would trade slightly diminished stopping power for no squeal...
     
  13. tazandjan

    tazandjan Three Time F1 World Champ
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    #13 tazandjan, Sep 23, 2014
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    Alex- Affirmative. Even though they have different part numbers, the FHP calipers are essentially identical to the normal calipers. Yours likely squeal as much as they do because they were never properly bedded. Mine rarely squealed. First month I owned her, not a squeal and I thought someone had changed to different pads. First time they squealed brought a smile to my face.

    Here are the bedding instructions, but you almost need a track to do them as written. The Porterfields Ricambi sells will cure the squeal without much sacrifice in braking power.
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  14. naparsei

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    Terry,
    Again, you are a fount of information on these cars. I will likely switch to the Porterfields since I drive it around town a lot.
    Alex
     
  15. tazandjan

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    Alex- Many happy owners with Porterfields. They do not have front wear wires, but not really a disadvantage on Ferraris because few are daily drivers. OEM rears do not have wear wires, either.
     
  16. darth550

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    Ferodo Nissan 350-Z Track upgraded pads....

    Done!
     
  17. MASR04

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    I have the same problem. If anyone asks, I'll say until the car hits 150mph they're not hot enough.

    How much is the upgrade to porterfields?
     
  18. tazandjan

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  19. 550v12SABI

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    Get used to it. LOL
     

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