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Briatore expects clean fight

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  1. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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  2. speedy_sam

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    When are you ever confident that Michael will not cheat - you never seem to think differently
     
  3. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    I guess as a lawyer who is accustomed to using legal precedent, I am comfortable with predicting future conduct based on past conduct...
     
  4. speedy_sam

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    I personally think Michael was guilty in 1994 and 1997 but to me it is two black spots on a career spanning 248 races with so many positives - fabulous race performances, amazing ability to race at the limit over 16 years, ability to build a team up. There are so many great things about Michael.

    Therefore I personally can temper those two incidents and choose to remember Michael for his talents.

    I think a lot of people are just seeing the two incidents and forgetting about the rest.

    Seeing the trees and not the forest if you know what I mean.
     
  5. parkerfe

    parkerfe F1 World Champ

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    With that logic if you are a great scholar and only kill one person per 248 people you meet, then you're still not a bad guy...or how about the priest who only molested a couple of alter boys over his 40 year career...still a great priest...maybe he would make a good pope ? Remember, Hesiman Trophy winner O.J. Simpson only killed two people after his great NFL career! Are you ever any better than your worse conduct ?
     
  6. tonyc

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    Oh Oh, in that case Dornboos better watch out for Fred.....
     
  7. bill365

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    Franklin, you know you opened a truly galactic sized can of worms with that one... now don't you?

    The myriad of possibilities...

    Alonso,
    Our glorious president,
    ......
     
  8. speedy_sam

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    Yes!

    LOL at the extreme analogies put forth by you but I still respect Michael because I choose to see a person a whole and not faults.

    Your golden boy has so far been clean apart from one brake testing incident in 2003 where he weaved across the track and forced Coulthard to spin off the race track in a scary looking incident. I would look past this incident as he never did it again. But you should condemn him as as you said "... .I am comfortable with predicting future conduct based on past conduct..."
     
  9. Giovanni_P

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    Because if he cheats he won't be remembered for his illustrious career, only for the underhanded way that he won his last race and his last championship.

    As much as I would like to see MS win the whole enchilada, I'm predicting a MS first-place finish, Alonso in the points, and no one caring that FA wins the championship because of all the media attention on MS's retirement.

    Forza Ferrari!

    Gio P
     
  10. william

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    He can't cheat himself, in a Senna do-or-die kind of way, since he needs to finish 1st and Alonso be out of the points.

    Just wondering if Massa, or any other Ferrari 'allies' (Spyker, Red Bull) won't be instructed to do the dirty work for him and eliminate FA. Just a very thin thread, I know, but in F1, you never know.

    Felippe, watch your back...
     
  11. dretceterini

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    the other way around and Fisi punt off MS...
     
  12. tonyc

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    Fisi does not seem to have that kill instict that he would do that, and being Italian, he could not do that to a Ferrari (Even if he lives in Monaco) :)
     
  13. Scuderia980

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    I predict an 'accident' for Alonso...And Schui wins...
    C'mon now...your examples don't really translate...killing someone, child molestation and F-1 racing are entirely different things. same logic/principles applied to vastly different issues don't always provide the same outcome. If you really believe that you're always held to your 'worst' action, then i guess you also don't believe in forgiveness, change, or any other non-linear traits.
    This is about car racing. It doesn't nearly reflect on the human being, as much as some are convinced it does. Murduring someone does reflect. But of course, no matter what harm we do, large or small, who's to say you are forever evil.
     
  14. parkerfe

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    Like the Dixie Chicks hit song Not Ready to Make Nice, "... Forgive sounds good, forget, I don't think I could..." applies to a lot of bad acts we all commit during our lives...
     
  15. Steve B

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    One can speculate on motives, but from a practical standpoint, it would be very dangerous for MS to try to take Alonso out, since that would also make it likely that he would be taken out in the same incident (assuming there would be contact, either or both cars could be trashed). I still think the real issue is whether Alonso will drive aggressively. He doesn't need to in order to win the championship and doing so will cause him to be exposed to greater risks of mechanical failure as well as aggressive passes that could result in contact. However, maybe Renault is more concerned about the Constructors championship and is willing to take the chance that FA doesn't win the Drivers' title.
     
  16. classic308

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    Exactly. FA will have a fit because his WDC will take a backseat to MS's retirement.
     
  17. parkerfe

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    But if he drives too conservably, he risked getting all tied up with the backmarkers where the risk of a crash is greatest...
     
  18. parkerfe

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    Only to the avid Ferrari fans like here on FChat...most of the world will still give Alonso the hooray he deserves....
     
  19. yzee

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    OJ Simpson was found not guilty.
     
  20. Mark(study)

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    Yes,... by people that didn't get much out of High School, and later said that they didn't understand DNA
     
  21. yzee

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    I also think he was guilty, but he was not convicted.
     
  22. parkerfe

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    If you are not convicted, you cannot be guilty although you may have in fact committed the act... guilt and innocence are legal terms, not moral terms...
     
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    You know what you get when you cross a lawyer and a Godfather?
    An offer you can't understand.
     
  25. Scuderia980

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    yep...he needs to just race like he always does...and he should get the point he needs. but, he is also thinking about the CC as well, so i don't think he's gonna settle for just scraps. unless something bizarre happens, which does every so often:) , he'll get his WDC.
     

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