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Bugatti Royale On The Streets Of Paris

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  1. RP

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    It's the first time I've seen it... best distraction I've had all day :)

    Beautiful car and always been one of my favorites.

    Thanks
     
  3. Webby

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    Wow! What an ugly interior! :D (thanks for sharing)
     
  4. 4re308

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    Man that is AMAZING! I've always been facinated by the Royale. What a car!
     
  5. RP

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    When my now 21 year old daughter was born, I tried to teach her two words. Forget mommy and daddy, where will that get you?

    I taught her Bugatti and Ferrari. All you need to know.
     
  6. WILLIAM H

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    Theres a few in SoBe including 1 roadster

    They sort of look like fat toads

    Not the sexiest car in the world by a long shot

    I think a Phantom is sexier
     
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    We are talking about real Bugattis here not ploutocrat VW's William, the ultimate Bugatti in the world the most famous of the Royales:)

    I had a visual shock like that when walking through the streets of Stockholm in, I think, 1990 I suddenly saw one of the true Royales in the lobby of a building. It was then owned, like the building itself, by Hans Thulin, the Swedish zillionaire, and not long afterwards he lost it and most of his assets.

    best regards,

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  8. VIZSLA

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    Imagine seeing that in your mirrors.
     
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    I highly recommed the French national car museum in Mulhouse, France, to any car lover. Not a pretty city, but the museum is orgasmic for car people, and can cause instant cardiac reaction if you are a Bugatti fan.

    Many many years ago, I did not realize what I was looking at when at the Henry Ford Museum. A huge off white cabriolet. When I understood, I went back to Michigan to see the black and yellow Royale that used to be owned by the pizza guy (Dominos I think).

    Then I made my first visit to Mulhouse, just to see the other Royales. For me, the best museum anywhere. Possibly the new Delahaye and Delage museum in California might come close, but Mulhouse is legendary.
     
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    I had a similar reaction when I saw Brigs Cunningham's at Costa Mesa years ago. Its hard to grasp the scale from pictures.
     
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    So of the remaining Royales, where are they all located (that can be viewed)?

    Great video!
     
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    I remember it from Pebble Beach, simply awesome!

    Caroline isn't too bad either. ;)
     
  13. El Wayne

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    William, there are only six in existence - none of these are in Florida.
     
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    #14 El Wayne, Aug 31, 2010
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    Brent, two are in the Schlumph Collection in Mulhouse, France (41.110 shown in this video and 41.131), one is in the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, MI (41.121), one is owned by Volkswagen (41.111), one is with the Blackhawk Collection in Davnille, CA (41.150). As for the Kellner car (41.141), I'm sorry, but I have no idea.

    The nearest one for you and the easiest to view (I've been there and seen it myself) is 41.121 at the Henry ford Museum. Pleanty of other cool stuff to see while you're there, not all automotive either. Well worth a visit.

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  15. RP

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    Supposedly there is one in Korea, it is not the Kellner car. VW owns the Kellner car along with 41 111 (chassis #2):
    "Number 41 150 (yellow sides) was, together with 41 141 bought from Bugattis daughter by Briggs Cunningham in 1950, who later sold it to Cameron Peck, Chicago, then to Dr B. Skitarelic, to Jack Nethercutt, and so to Bill Harrah in 1964. Harrah sold it to Jerry Moore, Texas, who sold it to Tom Monaghan (of Domino's Pizza). It was until recently co-owned by the Blackhawk Collection, California , and the Imperial Palace Collection, Las Vegas . Latest owner is a Mr Lee of Korea who still might own it."


    The Kellner car 41 141:
    "It is one of the two Royals obtained from Ettore's daughter L'Ebei by Briggs Cunningham and was one of the crowning pieces of his collection. Maintained in perfect operating condition, it was exercised regularly, often with museum guests as passengers. It was later bought from Cunninghams for £5,500,000 in 1987, it hass since 1990 been owned by Meitec Corporation, an engineering company in Japan , who according to sources bought it for £10 million. It is now owned by the Volkswagen group, owners of the Bugatti marque".


    The car in the video, 41 100 is the original #1 chassis, but the 3rd or 4th rebody, starting with a Packard originally, at Schlumph, along with 41 131.


    41 111 now called the Binder, used to be the Esders cabriolet body, is supposedly still owned by VW, along with 41 141.


    There is a 7th, sort of, I believe Schlumph took spares and recreated the Esder's green cabriolet, the one without headlights because the owner would never drive at night. The real Esders was rebodied as 41 111.

    I did see this recreation at Schlumph (French National Auto Museum) about 12-13 years ago.

    So two in Mulhouse, two in Molsheim (if not on display - VW bought the original factory), one in Detroit, and the last in Korea.
     
  16. VIZSLA

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    Didn't the Cunnigham coupe go to the Collier collection?
     
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    Yes, as far as I know, the Schlumph replica is still there.
     
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    #18 El Wayne, Aug 31, 2010
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    The Kellner car? Back to Collier? Possibly. I don't really keep track of these things anymore.
     
  19. VIZSLA

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    My assumption was it went with the rest of the collection
     
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    LOL I thought this was about the new Bug, just noticed it said Royale :)
     
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    Somewhere I have a photo of the one in Dearborn MI at the Henry Ford... I'll
    try to dig it out and post it.

    Jedi
     
  22. VIZSLA

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    That's the one that Chas. Chayne (?) from GM famously rescued from a scrapyard if I remember correctly. The cars and their stories are all larger than life.
     
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    Cool. See also the photo in post #14.
    You remember correctly.
     
  24. RP

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    I believe the reference to the Cunningham coupe is a different car? No Royales, possibly no Bugs at Collier.
     
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    Six Royales were together (first and only time) at the Pebble Beach Concours d’Elegance in 1985. I remember Road & Track had a beautiful early morning photograph of them together on the lawn, with a mist in the background.
     

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