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Building a Gaming pc HELP!!!

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  1. FerrariStef

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    Hi, I want to build a gaming PC, and I got some specs,
    Intel i7 920 2.66 Ghz
    case cooler master sniper storm
    Asus pcie gtx 285 with 1gb
    Sata 1.0TB seagate 7200rpm
    Asus x58 motherboard
    LG dvd/dl burner/reader with lightscribe
    1000w power supply
    kingston 1333MHZ DDR3 NO-ECC 6gb
    windows vista home premium 64 bit sp1

    I wanted to know if this is a good setup. if there's anything that needs to be changed or added or taken away, please point it out

    Thanks
     
  2. thirteendog

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  3. djui5

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    #3 djui5, Feb 22, 2009
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    Make sure your SATA drives are 10K. Also might wanna throw in a smaller drive (120GB or so) to use exclusively a as an operating system drive. This will greatly improve your speed. Oh have you considered an AMD chip?
     
  4. FerrariStef

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    #4 FerrariStef, Feb 22, 2009
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    what do you mean by 10k for the sata? do you mean 10,000 rpm? and, what kind of AMD chip? cause I was looking at the i-7 and I don't think AMD has a chip that compares to it.
     
  5. yoda

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    Yeah 10,000 rpm like a Raptor drive or something. Looks like a nice build and should last you a while.
     
  6. agup48

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    I agree with Vista Ultimate 64bit. So many cool little features to play around with too. You can buy some of your stuff from newegg.com as well. You probably know that though. Are you building this yourself?
     
  7. 1_can_dream

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    +1 on the separate drive from the TB drive just to run the OS and speed up the system a bit. Just use the TB drive for storage.
     
  8. FerrariStef

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    For hard drives, what about this: western digital SATA2 1.0TB W.D 7200 8M WD10EAVS? if you have any other hard drives please point it out but it would have to be 1TB or more and at least 7200RPM. Also, what does ultimate have compared to home premium? how is it more stable? and again, if there's anything that needs to be changed or added please point it out.

    Thanks
     
  9. thecarreaper

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  10. FerrariStef

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    nice PC. What kind of AMD do you have? do you like it more than intel? and have you had any problems with it?

    Thanks
     
  11. djui5

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    I recommended a 10K drive because they are a lot faster than 7200. Think regular drive (7200) VS SCSI (10K). I can't seem to find a 10K 1TB drive. Why the 1TB? You could do this, have 2 smaller (150GB each) drives. One to run your OS/etc, and one to put your games on (plus the save files!). Then buy a 7200 1TB drive to store all your music/movies/vids/whatever on. If your going to be gaming, you want to keep those files on a 10K drive, and have your OS on another 10K drive. This will improve your speed a LOT.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010150014%201035915133%201035507821&name=10000%20RPM

    I also recommended AMD because they are much better chips. Some of them might be a touch slower than Intel chips, but they will perform faster than Intel's offerings.

    This one is a 3.2 GB dual core, which means it has 2 3.2GB chips in it. It's the fastest they offer at this time and I'm sure will have absolutely zero problems running any game currently on the market:

    http://products.amd.com/en-us/DesktopCPUDetail.aspx?id=33&f1=&f2=&f3=&f4=&f5=&f6=&f7=&f8=&f9=&f10=

    For gaming it's really simple. You want a fast hard drive (10K SATA), a lot of fast ram (you have that on your list), a great video card with a fast bus (also on your list) and a really fast, well built CPU with a serious cooling system.

    Whatever you choose this is going to be one bas a$$ set-up that will afford you countless hours of entertainment, so congratulations on your purchase!
     
  12. JonBrent

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    #12 JonBrent, Feb 23, 2009
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    I just finished building a Gaming PC for a friend this weekend, how about that!

    CPU: [Same] Intel i7 920 2.66 Ghz (I've built with AMD & Intel in past, like them both.) [Frys BM sale]
    CPU Fan: Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme - much better cooling than stock, very quiet fan (blows UP through fins), safety wire support to case! [heatsinkfactory.com]
    Case: Antec 900 (works but it's as small as I'd go, Antec 1200 for next build) [Both from Amazon]
    GPU: EVGA GTX 285 (I like their warranty) [Newegg]
    HD: Sata 640GB Western Digital Black (read some Seagates have problems, WD WD6401AALS has great ratings, warranty & is fast). 300GB Raptor for next build. [Frys]
    Motherboard: Asus x58 - P6T Deluxe is made well, works (no OC yet). Downside is only 2 SLI realistically. [Newegg]
    DVD: [Same] LG 22x dvd/dl burner/reader with lightscribe [Best Buy full price, oh well]
    Power Supply: 1000w Corsair - very nice, very quiet, many many cables. [Amazon]
    Memory: Corsair Dominator TR3X6G1886C9DF 6GB Fans a bit noisy though, perhaps go 1600 for no fan but performance. [Newegg]
    OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64 bit sp1. Zero drama load.
    Monitor: Samsung T240HD, a TN but looks lovely to me, lots of inputs, ~30ms input lag (low enough for gaming) [Frys BM sale]

    Once I figured out the CPU fan orientation, it all works together. I hope this helps, Any questions ask away.

    Cheers, JB

    [Edit: I should have said this is intended as a gaming rig, and that it is intended to be future proof (yet upgradable) as these things take WAY too long for me to research : ) ]
     
  13. EnzymaticRacer

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    #13 EnzymaticRacer, Feb 24, 2009
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    I definitely agree about having multiple hard-drives is an absolute NECESSITY for really, any desktop computer... not just gaming machines. Not only will it significantly increase your speed, the added security of having all of your data seperate drive when your OS install gets hosed (inevitable) or you decide to update to Windows 7 (to be released this year) makes the recoery process go so much more smoothly. Nowadays, once you have your machine up and running and the way you like it, you can create an image of your OS that includes all of the proper drivers, antivirus software, etc, and then use that to un-hose your machine in record time whenever you feel like doing that.

    As far as AMD vs. Intel, I haven't exactly kept up with it, but even though AMDs used to be better chips, IIRC that is nowhere near the case these days. From what I've been reading (various gadget blogs that report test results from other respected websites), Intel processors TROUNCE AMDs comparable offerings, and its not looking like that is going to change any time soon. AMDs new quad-core chip is a step in the right direction for them, but it still isn't comparable to Intel's quad-core processors.
     
  14. SPEEDCORE

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    Intel is still the fastest with the quads but AMD has caught up alot of ground, at least in the price/performance value with the new Phenom II x3/x4 and if you are a gamer on a budget then its something to look into. Plus AMD's are better for overclocking as only the most expensive i7 are unlocked as far as I'm aware.

    Agree about the min 2 HDD rule. Seeing 1 hdd fail is really painful plus the pc runs faster having o/s and games/apps on different drives/partitions and much easier when it comes to re-formatting. Seagates have had issues with bricking so better to stick with WD.

    The parts are more or less there, I like JonBrent list more.

    Unless you are planning on getting SLI with multiple drives 1000w is way Overkill. A good quality PSU of say 750w should be more than enough but to be sure use this calculator http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power I typed in more or less what you suggested and it said 650w~ but that doesn't take future upgrades into account. Anyway you can play with it.

    Have a look at creative sound cards if you really want to enjoy your gaming sounds.

    End of the day it depends what resolution you will be running and which games you will be playing.
     
  15. thecarreaper

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    i have the same AMD 6400+ black edition that someone has posted a link to. i have built 2 high end game rigs with these, and have been super happy with them. no issues or complaints.

    i run mine overclocked with the Asus overclock software my motherboard came with and it runs fine, but a bit warm.
     
  16. FerrariStef

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    #16 FerrariStef, Feb 24, 2009
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    Thanks for all of your help, and can anyone recommend a good gaming or regular wireless keyboard+mouse? also, does anyone know if i can get bluetooth in the pc? like a media card reader with bluetooth because iv seen this on dell's.

    Thanks
     
  17. JonBrent

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    Don't know about wireless, but I like my Saitek PK02 keyboard.
     
  18. FerrariStef

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    I was also thinking of putting in a water cooled system. will this work with the Intel core i-7 2.66 ghz and the x58 MB? CM AQUAGATE MAX RL-HUB-KBU1-GP H2O. and what is the difference between the asus p6t and the p6t deluxe? because the p6t seems to have more stuff.

    Thanks
     
  19. ppatel9

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    #19 ppatel9, Mar 7, 2009
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    Hey,
    Just stumbled on this and lets just say that im a computer nerd. :D

    Here are main differences in the links below. If you strapped for cash, just go with the P6T.


    http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?modelmenu=2&model=2593&l1=3&l2=179&l3=815&l4=0

    http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=179&l3=815&l4=0&model=2731&modelmenu=2


    P.S.
    You should know that most games will not utilize all 8 threads....most will use 1 or sometimes 2 for newer games. However, if you are doing photo editing, video editing or lots of multi threaded apps, then yes....the i7 is the way to go. Also the price difference isnt much so you might as well just go with i7. It overclocks like a beast reaching 4ghz easily with air cooling. Dont go with that seagate b/c it has some firmware problems where is locks up. Seagate has fixed it but better firmware but just forgo the risk and get a 300gb velociraptor....or even a SSD. Honestly, that power supply isnt worth it if you not going to add another video card or 2 (SLIing). With that ram, i would go with some ddr3 1600 mhz with low voltage and low cas latency. Thats where you will see a big difference. If you got any more questions, please feel free to PM or refer to http://www.hardforum.com/ . Make an account and post, there are a lot of people there to help.
     
  20. settntrenz

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    +1 to everyone who recommended the smaller capacity high rpm drives. However, you can do better than a single high rpm drive for performance by implementing RAID. RAID level 0 will be the best for performance.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks

    You'll want to use a high end hardware raid controller (I've had great results with 3Ware and Adaptec cards) as opposed to on board raid the motherboard may support.
    The more drives you put into the array the better performance you will have. Along with that performance will come additional heat and noise from the machine so keep that in mind when selecting your case.

    Disclaimer: RAID0 offers no redundancy. If a single drive fails you will lose all data. You can achieve increased performance (over a single drive) with alternative raid levels that will also provide disk redundancy (raid 1,5,10 and others fit here) including hot spares. The wiki link should provide enough info for you to make a choice that fits your budget and performance goals.

    Enjoy the new machine.
     

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