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Building Oil Pressure After Storage

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  1. Langers

    Langers Karting

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    Hi Guys,

    F430 will be stored for appx 3 months at a time. I'm aware of all the usual storage tricks, but was wondering if anyone knows how to build oil pressure after the car has been in storage?

    Can you simply pull the fuel pump relay as you do on other cars, or will this cause a DTC to be logged?

    Cheers
     
  2. Langers

    Langers Karting

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  3. PaulK

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    May I ask why you feel the need to do this?
     
  4. Langers

    Langers Karting

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    Common practice for starting any car that has been in storage for more than a few weeks. There will be no oil at the top of the engine. Cranking without firing lets one build up oil pressure without causing excessive wear.
     
  5. ONEOFEW

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    I don't think it matters to cars with dry sump oilining sytem.
     
  6. 2NA

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    Probably a waste of time unless the engine has been apart and oil system is dry.
     
  7. RayJohns

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    it's a nice thought, but probably over kill. If you a really worried, do as mentioned above, bump start the car. Get the car rolling down a hill, put it in gear for a second (this will spin the oil pump), then fire things up. I personally don't think it's going to make much difference. You may do more damage by bump starting it :) Just turn the key. Oil pressure comes up in a split second.

    Ray
     
  8. Langers

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    How so? This is recommended procedure for 911s.
     
  9. sezme

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    I am primarilly a Porsche owner with 14 in my current stable. I'm heavily involved with the PCA (92,000 members and affiliates) at the National, Zone and Regional levels - and have never heard of anyone suggesting that procedure..

    Just my .02 cents

     
  10. F430Rod

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    Just give me the keys and I'll start it once in awhile for you. I promise to take good care of it. :D
     
  11. ONEOFEW

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    That’s a first.
    Can you please elaborate on how to prime a stock street engine of a 911?
     
  12. Langers

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    Which generation are you after? As far as the Carreras go, IIRC you just remove the fuel pump relay. Been a while since I tinkered with P-Cars though.
     
  13. ONEOFEW

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    Still by disabling the fuel pump and cranking the motor doesn’t change the fact that internals are spinning without oil. You may be able to build some oil pressure, but that’s nearly not enough
    With a dry sump system you will get much faster and better oil pressure “instantly” if you fire up the motor and run it through it warm up cycle.
     
  14. ONEOFEW

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    On the F430 you will instantly trigger the CEL light if you disable the pump relay.
     
  15. Langers

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    Hmm, interesting.

    I remember seeing one thread on Pelican Parts where someone had adapted an external drive so they could spin up the oil pump/engine using an electric drill prior to starting the engine.

    Will have to have a good look at the F-Car when it's next up on a lift.
     
  16. AEHaas

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    Every time you change the oil the engine is started up with a lack of oil movement for a while. It can take up to 10 seconds to get oil to the top of the engine. But there is always a residual layer of oil on parts. After many months the thin oil layer will turn into a thin grease layer. As long as it does not get too hard the only thing that happens is that the starter motor has to work harder to get the engine turning.

    The greater concern is corrosion, not a lack of oil at start up. Leaving a car in the garage for many months without use will be a problem in all parts of the car because of corrosion in the engine and in the electrical system.

    aehaas
     
  17. Langers

    Langers Karting

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    It's being stored in a shared garage with a climate of about 95 degrees F and 95% humidity, with no way to charge the battery.

    Oh well, can always buy a new one when the 2011 car comes out!

    Cheers for the help.
     

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