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BUILDING RACE 308 ENGINE..ANY IDEAS?

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  1. chevalcabre

    chevalcabre Formula Junior

    Nov 2, 2003
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    Steve Maman
    I HAVE A DRY SUMP MOTOR GOING INTO A RACE JIM CARPENTER 308 GTO ....BUILT WITH ALL RACING BRAKES,SUPENSION..INCREDIBLE CAR...
    I DONT WANT TO SPEND BIG $ AND WANT TO LEAVE IT RELIABLE...
    I THOUGHT OF JE PISTONS,PORTING THE HEADS.... WOULD THAT DO ANY GOOD OR MAY I LEAVE IT ORIIGNAL AND USE THE 250 HP ALONE....??
     
  2. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    If this was a Jim Carp 308 racecar you have the wrong goals for the wrong car unless you want a slow racecar. If the chassis that Jim did is very good with compromises set up for racing then IMO you need to spend the money to have the engine done right. If you can't do it yourself and do no have the tools send it to a guy like Dave at Cavallino Ramparte Boulder Colo.. See the thread under the super ferraris section the thread " F40 Engine Rebuild - Don't try this at home!" if you want to do your engine right vs. cheap. Cheap gets you cheap if cheap is what you want.
     
  3. jharkercfduc

    jharkercfduc Karting

    Sep 4, 2004
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    jonathan harker
    is that the black 288 bodied 308 that was for sale in canada with the motor out? either way, norwood turbo with upgraded components would make the most of the motor. you can pick the level of hp/reliability with the boost level and component quality.
     
  4. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

    Feb 22, 2003
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    I think one also needs to look at the rules of the classification you want to race in, as there are restrictions or re-classifications of modified or blown cars. For sheer horsepower, most bang for buck is with forced induction, though. Need to somewhat design to the class in which you will be competing.
    Can't go wrong with a call to Carobu or Norwood's.
    Good luck!
    rt
     
  5. chevalcabre

    chevalcabre Formula Junior

    Nov 2, 2003
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    Steve Maman
    I GUESS STOCK,SOLID RELIABLE IS BEST.I AM NOT GOING TO BE A WINNER,JUST FOR FUN TRACK TIME AND ENJOY A CHEAP NICE CAR...
     
  6. Auraraptor

    Auraraptor F1 World Champ
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    Steve, I suggest updating the cooling system, as well as adding trany cooler and if I recall a diff. cooler as well.
     
  7. pma1010

    pma1010 F1 Rookie

    Jul 21, 2002
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    Steve
    When ever you start modifying the engine you are going to start spending money at a pretty good clip. I'd recommend you talk to James Patterson at Norwood or Mike at QV in London.

    Cams are probably biggest bang for the buck.

    RPM is one of the biggest determinants of reliability.
    Philip
     
  8. johnbob

    johnbob Karting

    Nov 8, 2003
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    Oklahoma
    Norwood Twin Turbo, no question. 288 was a turbo car, biggest bang for the buck- with great reliability and driveability if you are reasonable with the boost.
     
  9. Auraraptor

    Auraraptor F1 World Champ
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    Actually, I would venture the best (as well as a way of INCREASING reliablity) bang for your buck is a modern fuel injection system. You can add around 30 hp with this.
     
  10. Jagbuff

    Jagbuff Formula 3

    Jan 13, 2004
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    Franck
    If you are building a race 308 engine, there is no way to do it for cheap. If you are looking for reliability and keep the cost down there is no way you can increase horsepower. The twin turbo option - if done right - will probably set you back at least $35K if the engine is in good shape which is a fair chunk of change. It will probably not be the best for racing, however; if will be a blast to drive...

    Do you have pictures of the car? Does it have the correct GTO engine orientation?
    Franck
     

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