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Business laptop: To Mac or not to Mac?

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  1. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

    Jan 1, 2007
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    Going to buy a new laptop. Struggling to decide between a 15" Macbook Pro or a Lenovo Thinkpad with similar size and for the same money. I have never used a Mac, but have watched the "From PC to Mac" videos on apple.com and it seems OK. Used to be a die hard Nokia fan but changed to Android phones and loved the change, so I think I'm open for a different OS after all those Windows years. I'm fed up with the security hysteria of Windows, and that my new Windows 7 (home edition) crashed on my personal laptop the first day! Why can't Windows just work!

    1) I have a website where I sell stuff and want to start taking my own product pictures and product video clips (YouTube implementation). Nothing fancy, but I just want easily understandable editing software, and some basic effects for the video - a little crash and bang effects on those radio controlled cars would be awesome :)

    Example (scroll down to the video): http://www.firebox.com/product/2030/The-Dukes-of-Hazzard-RC-Car

    2) I appreciate a good system for backup on external harddrive, which also backups Outlook (inbox + sent files + contacts). Is there anything like this for the Mac? I know Windows has tons of software for backups. I think Mac has something that uploads your stuff to an external server, but I want the stuff with me and not online.


    Should I just get a Thinkpad and video + photo editing software, because of more freedom with the system? Or should I get a Mac, even though the equipment and accessories are almost always twice the price?

    Thanks!
     
  2. Jedi

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    My main business laptop is a Macbook with Snow Leopard, Windows XP, and
    Ubuntu Linux as a triple-boot. I also have a T60 Think Pad and an Acer
    Netbook with Win7.

    I will say the Mac is stable. But so is the Win7 machine. XP is XP - it is what it is.

    I just view computers as tools - some things about Windows are good, some things
    about Linux are good, some things about Mac are good. And likewise, there's stuff
    about each of them (Including Mac) that suck.

    But I cannot argue against the stability of the Mac. It's the most stable computer
    I've ever used as my road "work horse".

    Jedi
     
  3. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Thanks for the reply :)

    What would be the downsides to a Mac OS?
     
  4. LetsJet

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    The mac is a well built machine with good specs. I would go Mac as, like it was said earlier, you can boot xp if you need to.
     
  5. Jedi

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    Just little niggling things - you just have to learn the "Mac Way". It's funny
    how tiny things can be annoying - like for instance, on Mac you can only resize
    a window from the lower right corner. The other thing that annoys me is
    that on the standard Macbook, there is no SD card slot and only 2 USB ports,
    which are too close together for some devices. Macbook Pro has more USB
    ports and does have the SD reader. I also get annoyed at the "single tool bar"
    at the top, no matter where the program is on the screen. Fine on the Macbook,
    but when I'm connected to my 24" monitor, I have a lot of mouse movement
    at times going up to the tools. Also, you can't truly maximize a window. The
    maximize button just makes a window "as big as it needs to be to show what's
    in the window". If you want it bigger, you have to resize it manually. And of
    course, the resizing can only be done from the lower right corner, so you have
    to drag the window to the upper left, and THEN resize it.

    Just niggling differences - Mac just does things differently. I'm used to it though.

    Jedi
     
  6. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Allright, I guess the Mac OS will annoy me in the same way the iTune does... Made me unsure, I hate stuff like that :p
     
  7. Jedi

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    Yeah - it's a lot like that. I hate iTunes and how it works, but it's the way Mac
    thinks it should work and that won't change. We just learn to deal with it.

    I might add - iTunes on my Mac runs 100% better than it does on Windows. It's
    still a bloated crappy program but it seems to work vastly better on the Mac.

    Jedi
     
  8. Jedi

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    One other important niggling detail - if you use external storage (I have a 1TB drive
    velcro'd to the laptop lid), you MUST dismount the drive before unplugging it! I can't
    over stress this - you run a very good risk of corrupting the drive if you don't do it cleanly.
    On Windows Vista/Win7 it's really no longer a concern. I unplug drives and sticks
    all the time and never give it a thought on Windows. It just handles it - I believe because
    the newer versions of windows don't really "keep the drive open" - in effect, it's always
    "eject ready" when you're not accessing files. NOT SO ON MAC! Once in a while I
    forget - and sometimes the Mac won't see that drive anymore when I reconnect. The
    only fix is to plug it into a Windows box first, then back to the Mac. That always works.

    But bottom line - don't just unplug storage devices on a Mac!!

    Jedi
     
  9. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Good to know!

    Seems that there's a lot to take in. Starting to think that Thinkpad's are famous for their reliability, so they are probably better platforms than all the home market laptops I have had to this date - and therefore I should just get familiar with some good editing software for Windows instead of changing over to Steve-Jobinism...

    I really think that small annoying details would make me crazy...
     
  10. Far Out

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    I have a Thinkpad now for three years and I'd buy one again in a heartbeat. The build quality is exceptional, no signs of wear after 3 years.
    When I bought the Thinkpad, a lot of my friends (especially female!) were laughing about its design or rather the lack thereof, but now they have thrown away their blingbling notebooks, and my Thinkpad still looks like new.

    If you need a tool and not a toy - which you do if you use it for business I suppose - go for the Thinkpad.
     
  11. DriveAfterDark

    DriveAfterDark F1 Veteran

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    Cool, I have heard the same :) It's made by engineers!

    Could anyone recommend me video and easy photo software (Windows), though?
     
  12. ChipG

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    I have been a PC guy for 30 years but just bought the top of the line MacBook Air i7 13" 256 gig model.

    I partitioned the hard drive for half Mac OS Lion and the other half Windows 7, I'm a really mobile guy that travels a lot and for me this is THE best computer I have ever owned!

    I also bought a 27" cinema display that I plug into at home, it's a fantastic setup!

    It has a SD card slot, 2 USB inputs and the thunderbolt port for many more I/O options.

    Its really nice to be able to run either the Mac OS or Windows, actually you can run both at the same time if you buy parallels for $79.

    I have been editing 1080HD video footage on it with no problems, it turbo boosts to 2.9 ghz and it's a dual core processor.

    I'm really glad I bought this computer, I can't say enough good things about it!
     
  13. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Full disclosure; I've been called a black turtleneck wearing Apple fanboi on here more than once.... :) I don't work for Apple (unfortunately!) or have any axe to grind beyond >30 years around computers.

    My 02c; For your stated needs, the Mac will provide a much "better" experience, you'll be happy rather than frustrated and hence more productive.

    Local backups; Simply plugin an external drive and "Timemachine" (included) will take of it.

    iPhoto & iMovie (included) do take a little learning, just like everything else. Follow a tutorial or two and you'll be home free in no time - As noted, "they just work".

    Contrary to some tales, you don't have any security/virus/bloatware/etc nonsense with a Mac. FWIW, I forget to unmount drives all the time - It B&M's and warns me to stop doing it, but I've never had one fail to reconnect.

    Yes, they're more expensive, but IME last a lot longer resulting in about equal TCO.

    Finally, why a laptop? [Much more bang for your buck with an iMac if you don't *need* to drag it around with you.]

    IMOSHO, your quality of life will improve and you'll get to enjoy rather than fear stitching videos etc together.

    As always, my 02c,
    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  14. Fast_ian

    Fast_ian Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Learn a few darn keyboard shortcuts then! ;)

    Seriously, I sort of agree (!) and it's even worse with two monitors until you install the "duplicate the tool bar" utility whose name I've forgotten!

    Cheers,
    Ian
     
  15. nthfinity

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    I ~should~ be getting my new laptop very soon. It's a beast of a laptop for performance numbers. Any nagging thought about doing photoshop, or video editing slower than a mac wont even matter :)

    I'll post a review after I get it, and run it for a little while.

    At a glance
    2gb video card
    8gb ram
    2.3 ghz quad core with 'boost' up to 3.4 ghz
    160 gb solid state drive with 500 gb 7200 rpm drive

    I had thought about going with 16gb of ram, but for now, that $300 pill was tougher to justify.
     

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