Buying a GranTurismo --- What to look out for ?

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    is that stock exhaust? Thanks
     
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    I am a passionate car guy as well, and as a passionate car guy I wouldn't say I hate what another passionate car guy has done to his car, particularly if I owned a business refinishing stick parts commenting on a guy's car who has 3 cars that need refinishing. ;)
     
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    Yes. Its the only car I have that I haven't modified the exhaust on, because it sounds so damn good as is. I don't know if the F1's sound different than the normal transmission cars or not.....
     
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    Get a 2009 with an F1 super fast tranny - makes all the difference in the world - have had no problems - love the car - even added c Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login arbon ceramic brakes from an FF
     
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    I've heard people mention F1 issues but neither I or anyone I know has had a problem - and I tracked mine for 2 weekends in a row with a friend who is a pro when it was new - wanted to see how it would do - it was great - costs me $8900 to replace ties, rotors calipers etc but no brake downs or any problems with F1 - funny all four tires were worn the same - bald - it can really be a nice nimble drive (for its size). Also helps that one button takes all controls off - finally I believe there r more differences in the F1 then just the F1 - suspension for sure
    Not trying to pimp my car at all - I would never sell (my daughter and wife would kill me) the car - why too much difference in price and value - this car f1 is the most value compared to sale price I have ever seen in exotics
     
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    There are no "issues" with the F1, but they do require alot more maintenance and $ to own and operate. Even if nothing goes wrong, you have a clutch to consider, whereas the hydraulic systems don't. You will also likely need an F1 actuator at some point. Neither of those services are cheap. You also have the fluid change in the gear box (not a big issues, but still more $ than the non-F1). I own one, and like you will never sell it, wonderful cars, but more money to run than the normal GTS for sure.
     
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    Been test driving a few...... So far, I like the car quite a bit, but I'm a little underwhelmed by its power. I do realize this is designed to be a true "GT" car --- and not a sports car.

    But, at 454hp (for the later 4.7L models), I expected a bit more grunt...... until I looked up the curb weight --- about 4,200lbs for the base model US spec cars !!!

    Holy crap ! How are these so damn heavy ?! Does appear that they are mostly steel (sub frames & body panels) construction, with little to no aluminum or composite usage...... but, even still, that's an awfully heavy pig for a mid-sized performance car !

    What accounts for all this weight ?
     
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    That's because it drives more like a Ferrari - worth the costs
     
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    100% in agreement.
     
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    100% agree.

    have you driven the F1 cambiocorsa
     
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    Glad you agree - u have a Ferrari engine, Ferrari F1, and a Ferrari suspension at a cheap costs - I was so glad I found the last one in the US new in 2009 - I was standing in the parking lot at Ferrari Fort Lauderdale and they had one in service - I checked the whole car - cranked it and that was it - paid $135,000 for one FFL found in Denver - Best buy I ever made - the last one available new - curious, whas it's worth now? Of course I put carbon ceramic brakes from an RR and added a 599 HGTE brake assist on it but thats just my fooling around - but by God you can stop fast - can't go fast if u can't stop fast
     
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    The point for anyone reading this is the F1 is a special car with far more maintenance than a normal GT car, and glad you agree with me on that point.
     
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    I've not had any related costs with the F1 yet - car is 9 yrs old with 16,000 miles on it so I'll see
     
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    #44 finnerty, Jun 5, 2018
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    Well, I'd have to say......yes, and no, on that point.....

    Designed and built by Ferrari, yes, but engineered by Fiat as to final configuration. To wit, toss in the 90 degree crankshaft, associated piston / connecting rod / camshaft geometry changes plus entirely different firing order, valve timing, and fuel / ignition mapping...... and you don't really have a "Ferrari" engine anymore..... instead it's really just a shared set of block and cylinder head castings.
     
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    Just curious if you have had a clutch reading at service to see remaining clutch life. I have about 30k, and I can feel I am coming up on needing a clutch.

    I have heard you can greatly extend clutch life by using only manual shift...I never use auto mode because manual is so much fun :)

    Also, does anyone have any information on the F1 exhaust. I believe its different, but dont konw for sure
     
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    I will have to check the latest (February) invoice from Maserati of Greenville - of course I had gone over it then but can't remember standing out wear wise but I'll look
    I only use manual - thats what I pay for - also in the mnts I drive like on a track so have to shift manually to do that
    Do not know about the exhaust except that it sounds great
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    I hate it when people confuse fiction with facts - only kidding - interesting but I'm going to keep telling people that it has a Ferrari engine

    Thanks for the info
     
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    I wouldn't say it's wrong to call it a Ferrari engine, but there are some very dramatic technical differences between the versions Ferrari used and the versions Maserati used.

    It depends on one's point of view, I suppose.....

    For anyone who wants the details and to understand the distinctions, here is pretty good cheat sheet ---

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrari_F136_engine
     

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