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Bye bye, Wade Phillips...

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  1. jmiff348

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    It was inevitable. Was it necessary?
     
  2. JoshVette

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    Is it the coaches fault if the players do not perform? or is it the coaches job to get the players to perform? Either way it will always end up dumping on the coach... I think a bit of both, but I did see #21 Jenkins literally step back as a GB player ran by him for a TD with a cowboy on his back, why didn't Jenkins hit him or try to stop him short? he literally stepped back and let the TD happen?

    Personally I think this goes deeper then Phillips, I don't think any coach will be able to get the players to perform under Jones as owner.

    Too much money making decisions and not enough "football" in the game...
     
  3. jmiff348

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    I would love to visit with a few of Jones' ex-HC's (off the record). I wonder why any of them would want to work for him.
     
  4. kosmo

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    jones needs to fire himself and his son.
     
  5. BlackBird007

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    I kinda saw it coming...
     
  6. boiseferrari

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    I am not a Cowboys fan (far from it) but after watching that game last night I think this was absolutly the right thing to do. The Head Coach is the guy responsible for motivating the players. In the first quarter my buddy I slwas watching the game with said that the Cowboys looked defeated and that was when it was still close. I had the Cowboys on 4 in our pool and didn't think there was a shot at them getting to 14 before the game started. I do however blame Jerry Jones far more than Phillipps. Wade has never been a motivator but Jones is the one that put this team together. For the sake of the fans I hope he gets his act together. They should be better than this even without Romo. One player does not make a team.
     
  7. 308geo

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    #7 308geo, Nov 8, 2010
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    I decided to have a little fun at trying to do something about this situation:

    To Mark Cuban: PLEASE buy our Dallas Cowboys!

    This is a grass-roots effort to try and get Mark Cuban to buy the Dallas Cowboys from Jerry Jones. Jones has proved that his ego will forever get in the way of the Cowboys returning to greatness. His inability to hire the right coach, turn over the reins of control, then back off to let them do their job means that the Cowboys are in a "Catch-22".

    Mark Cuban has the personality and the pocketbook to make our dream for the Cowboys become a reality.

    Maybe we can convince him to do it.

    Send this to everyone you think feels the same way!

    Page:
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    http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_152980904746916
     
  8. jimpo1

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    Not sure I think Mark has the means, Forbes values the 'boys at over $1B. That's a large whack, even for Mark. And, they're not for sale. Jones won't sell, without the Cowboys he's just another rich guy.

    Not sure I agree that it's Phillips fault, but do think someone needs to be accountable. Jerry won't be accountable, so Wade is left. Garret is on his last leg, no way he'll achieve anything with his pathetic play calling. Unless he's been sandbagging.

    Every player on the team is tuned out. Even Witten missed a block, slow out of his stance. Cost them a key 3rd down play. The players need some FEAR to get motivated.
     
  9. jmiff348

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    Jim, I think you're right. When Cuban stopped bidding on the Rangers, I wondered if he was tapped out.

    The Cowboys just don't seem to have any wind left in their sail. I think Jones could fix it if he'd get the h*ll out of the way...
     
  10. FarmerDave

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    Anybody talking about Cuban buying the Cowboys from Jones isn't paying attention to what makes each of them tick.
     
  11. darth550

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    Phillips has either lost team control or made bad decisions at every stop in his head coaching career.

    I hate The Cowboys and I'm happy for them now.
     
  12. rob lay

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    I won't be happy for them until Jerry is gone. I have kept to my goal of never going to a Cowboys game in town, don't want to give Jerry any of my money.
     
  13. TRScotty

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    Absolutely!!!! Long overdue IMHO.

    +355 I wonder why JJ (Jimmy) hasn't spilled the beans, other than he is a class-act and a real pro.

    BOTH!!! I totally agree, Wade lost them with his "my daddy is Bum Phillips" routine.

    You are not alone.
     
  14. Challengehauler

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    I feel sorry for anyone that takes the job as "coach" under Jones. It's like having to run plays by your wife first. (or her telling you what plays to use)

    I don't watch football, especially the Cowboys because I already know the outcome. Call it a gift....
     
  15. AnotherDunneDeal

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    The way I see it, the players are multi-million dollar prima donna's (if that is how it is spelled). When you are at that level of professional play it should not take a coach coming out before each game giving you a hug and a pat on the rear. You should be able to muster up enough professional pride to want to go out and show just how good you can be. True, Wade was not the kind of personality that would get up in someone's face and shout them down but somehow I do not think you should have to. Landry certainly did not and they performed under him.


    I believe the players are actually more at fault than Wade. As has been said several times before, "there is no quarterback on defense". Whether Romo got injured or not should not have any bearing on how the defense plays. It has not been just since Romo got hurt. These guys have not played up to their potential all year..........Woodson and Clay Matthews said it right after the game last night. The Packers have had their share of injuries this year but, as Woodson said, "When someone goes down, it is time for the playmakers to come up and make it happen." Now is when the jay Ratliff's and the Brookings and Newman and Ware need to step their game up a notch or two and show just how good a professional football player they can be. That is what they are paid those millions of dollars to do. And not to be individual players but come together as a team. It is not a time for them to feel defeated and just roll over and quit.......And that is certainly what they appeared to do last night.... I wonder if there is anyone left on the Cowboys who could still rise up and become the team leader they need?

    BTW. I agree about J.J. not helping out here.....I have had a couple of business dealings with him and have no love lost for him...His seedy smile is certanly one to beware of......
     
  16. Argento839

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    I heard Dallas has the biggest payroll in the NFL.. Not true??
     
  17. jmiff348

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    Jerry would probably say "I don't need your money." I think most fans are way too forgiving.
     
  18. jmiff348

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    Scotty, I agree. Jimmy Johnson is a class act and a real pro.
     
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    #19 TexasF355F1, Nov 9, 2010
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    I've never bought that argument. Just as a football fan, listening to Wade week after week is nausiating. I'm tired of listening to Kubiak week after week at this point, but Wade's just another step down to the bottom. He knew he wasn't going to be around much longer.

    Being a coach is just like being a manager. You set the tone for your employees. If they don't respect you they're not going to perform to their true abilities. Not that they are doing so on purpose, but it seeps into the subconcious. Just as if your manager is always negative it's going to affect the attitude of all the employees eventually.

    I do agree that JJ is the biggest problem. He needs to just shell out the money and stay in the background. But he can't and won't.

    Best thing is I'm not a Cowboy fan so all of this is just fun to watch implode. :D
     
  20. James_Woods

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    Moose said on the radio this morning that in his opinion, the Cowboys simply did not work hard enough at practice this year.

    He made the point that they were simply walking through it and that he saw this for himself. That has to come down to the tone that the head coach is setting.

    Did not blame the coach totally, but he essentially said Phillips simply did not have the personality to work the team to perfection, manage them when things got bad, and now it does look to the fans like some of the team has pretty much quit on them.
     
  21. FarmerDave

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    Going back to what root... the Landry firing?

    There are a couple sides to every story... I'm not a Jerry apologist, but I saw an Irving Municipal Cable Channel deal on Texas Stadium last year where a couple of politicians from Irving at the time broke down the Cowboys' history, from an Irving Texas perspective. They gave Jerry a little latitude in how that situation was handled, and said Landry wasn't necessarily as victimized as history has made him out to be.
     
  22. rob lay

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    Landry was actually before my Dallas time, I don't like Jerry for any specific reason, just a combination of his attitude, micro management, and willingness to employ criminals that no one else wants.
     
  23. DaveJ13

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    Jerry has to give up his GM duties. He can be an owner if he wants but not an owner and a GM.

    Who will the next coach be?

    Tony Dungy
    Bill Cowher
    Jon Gruden
    Brian Billick

    Or are all of these guys to strong willed for Jerry? He wants a coach he can control but he did have Parcells so there is a little hope but not much. I can only imagine the type of ego that I guy like Jerry has. It takes a lot for me to admit I am wrong and I am just a peon. Imagine him trying to do the same.
     
  24. ferraridude615

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    As much as I'd like to see Cowher or Gruden come in, Jerry wants someone he can control. Sure he let Parcells play around in Dallas for a little bit but he needs to be in control.

    Jerry has always hired college coaches (Switzer and Jimmy), hired coordinators (Gailey, Philips, and Campo) or Bill Parcells. It is almost as if Jerry wants these coaches to owe him for being allowed to coach the Cowboys and in turn let Jerry run wild.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Jason Garrett was running the "team" next year.
     
  25. jimpo1

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    DING DING DING!!!

    Unless he chokes big time, that's exactly what's going to happen.
     

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