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bypass valve vacuum psi

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  1. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

    Oct 16, 2011
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    What is the proper vacuum psi required to acute the bypass valve?

    I found another thread that indicated 24 psi but it was not definitive.

    Thanks!

    Eddie
     
  2. gothspeed

    gothspeed F1 World Champ

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    During some data collection for other purposes ........ I will be taking these actual numbers in the near future ............ but off hand I believe the vacuum provided by the vacuum reservoire/intake manifold is 330mbar or 20" Hg ..... approximately ;) ........... though I do not know how much of that, is actually required for the bypass actuator to do its job ...... :eek:
     
  3. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

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    Thanks Oz.

    By the way, I appreciate and love reading your posts... :)
     
  4. WATSON

    WATSON Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Right or wrong, mine is at 24".

    I hooked a gauge to it and ran the tube into the cockpit to measure everything under load.

    It operates the valve as it should at that level.
     
  5. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

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    Awesome, thanks for that effort.
     
  6. gothspeed

    gothspeed F1 World Champ

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    My 20" was off fuzzy memory recollection ...... so a different number would not be surprising ...... :) ......... my recalled number was taken 'after' the auxillary air injection solenoid switch ........ which I believe has a small bleedoff in order to allow the vacuum actuated valve to 'go back' after vacuum has been switched off ....... I cannot say for certain (yet) if the reservoire vacuum source has to 'fight' that bleedoff during actuation (thus getting a lower number) or if the solenoid creates a hermetic path ....... :eek:

    but as I mentioned before ..... I will be taking vacuum numbers again :) .......... the effort purpose, is to collect and characterize actual vacuum numbers at various load and throttle postitions .......... information which is needed for future component development ...... ;)

    Tentatively, I will be testing the following vacuum sources;

    1. Manifold vacuum
    2. Reservoire vacuum
    3. post auxillary air injection solenoid switch vacuum
    4. post by-pass valve solenoid switch vacuum

    *note ..... since my original bypass actuator has been replaced with a custom version ..... I will not be able to test at what vacuum level the OEM version actuates ......... at least during this driving test ......... but I do have some extra actuators I can test on the bench.
     
  7. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

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    ...great stuff, thanks Oz.
     
  8. gothspeed

    gothspeed F1 World Champ

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    Sorry for the slow response .......... :eek:

    Here are the bypass valve actuation numbers as asked by TxEddie.

    Bypass cracks @ 8 cmHg or 106.66 mbar

    Bypass is full open @ 18 cmHg or 239.98 mbar

    ......... :)
     
  9. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

    Oct 16, 2011
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    Thanks!

    I originally wanted to know because I added the spring mod to stop the buzz and wanted to make sure I didn't inhibit the valve from opening with the additional friction. The valve still opened but also still had a small buzz when warmed up.

    New bypass installed=NO buzz.

    ...talking about follow-through on your part! What a pro.

    :)
     
  10. tamf328

    tamf328 Formula Junior

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    Where did you get the new valve from, Ferrari part or not?
    I want to replace that rattling piece of junk on mine.
     
  11. TxEddie1111

    TxEddie1111 Formula Junior

    Oct 16, 2011
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    ...eBay; OEM $700 NEW!! Wow, does it make the sweetest sound difference...well, that and the Capristo 3...
     

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