Dear webmaster and NYTS moderator: I made the below post: In this post, the * was typed out as asterisk, that's done by shift key + number 8 key. ghost, who is a moderator of this section, made the below post in reply to my post: My question: what exactly did I do to cause a warning to be given to me? Rob, you made the rules. Sam, you are the enforcer of the rules. I hope to hear legit explaination from you guys on this matter. If you do not find my post to be in violation of rules, then I would like to report ghost violating the NYTS posting rule. 1.1 No "Flaming": Please do not post any messages that harass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another user. I consider his post to be a harass and threat, when he said "warning given". I want to see the rules get enforced and punishment to be issued when you see fit, in observation of fairness and well-being of this board. Now notes to other people: I made this post in a sincere but serious manner. Please, do not hijack it, do not insert funny comments to deter it from its purpose or brush it off to lighten up the situation. Thank you all. Await response ...
A sincere and serious response: Not everything in this world is fair, even-handed, and egalitarian -- including fchat. The most recent theme of your posts has been about the "equalness" of the moderation here. You know what? Maybe they're not being fair. Maybe they're not moderating equally and even-handedly, every single time. Maybe they do have something against you. SO WHAT? The world is far from a fair and balanced place. Cops get to break the speed limit and run red lights whenever they want. Fchat is no different--even if they say they are. Accept it and move on. Stop worrying about it so much!
Don't insult anybody's intelligence. We all know the beef you have with me and how you insist on making it personal by pushing the boundaries of the rules of FChat. I stand by my decision. Your history on this board is well known, and most of the moderators are keeping a real close eye on you, particularly myself. Better yet, why don't you clear all of this up by explaining what "***" meant. Most lay people on this board who aren't "exclusive," might take that to mean a banned word. Without any further explanation or context, you can't blame us. If you play on the edge, you sometimes risk falling over...
Of course nothing is completely fair, I do not ask for such. But this case is not complicated, and it does not even have much to do with fairness. I am simply question what I did that's considered a violation. If I am not mistaken, moderators have vowed to try and do a good job moderating, all I am saying is effort here.
Again, I take that as a threat, which is in violation of rule 1.1. I do not know what is there to clear up. --- On the other site, there is a list of attendants for Ed's pool party. --- You made a post here said you are in. --- In Ed's post when he listed the people, you shown as "asterisk asterisk asterisk". --- So i said vik shown as "asterisk asterisk asterisk". This advice is better for yourself at this moment.
I think Chris asked a very simple and important question. The question should be taken in the context it was asked and not blurred by any previous post made by Chris. If you take prior conduct into account every time for present conduct than you are punishing Chris multiple times for the same offense. He did something wrong as per the moderators and was banned for doing so (as his punishment), you cannot now punish him over and over again by using that to judge all his future post. That practice seems highly un-fair. I realize that Vik has a different point of view and i am as well anxiously awaiting Sam and Rob to chime in. P.S. For what it is worth I don't think typing asterisks three times deems a warning from a moderator, especially when everyone knows the comment was made to be funny.
there was NO need for ghost to give w00dear a WARNING for typing '**' in his post. get real man. moderating is one thing, being a crybaby is another. hate me if u want ghost, but i'm being straight up forward to you. other people may not jump and say what i am saying because they are close friends of yours. but i am your friend too and i dont think you are being fair with w00dear just because you 2 got some battleroyal going. just trying to help make you understand what u are doing bro
And you used to say I made dumb posts? Enough with this already. We get the point. Now it is just down right annoying.
Sorry but in all actuality this is a website forum, there are basically no rules. Look at Inside The EC, you guys have weird rules over there too. The five minute ban to members if they said something wrong? Is that fair? No, but you still do it. I think you are reading way to much into this. Just let it be, because you and I both know that nothing is going to change. The only possibility of change is that you might no longer be on this site because the moderators will just have enough and ban you permanently.
Are you speaking on behave or site owner and moderator? If not, please leave my thread alone. Thank you.
For what it's worth, when I first read the "we'll put you down as ***"... I laughed and thought it was funny that someone called Vik 'Star-Guy'. You know? It's like calling Ed P. 'Pool-Guy' or Sam 'Law-Guy' or me 'Unemployed-Guy'. Actually, I thought about posting a pic of a license plate with *** on it. And I thought that, becuase, I know Chris to be fun, smart & clever. But... Then I remembered "dA FuED!" and I thought to myself, "Self, DAMN!" I know that in vBulletin you can see the uncensored post, so moderators know what was ACTUALLY written before it was censored. But the one thing, and the point of all of this censorship/discussion 'stuff' is about intent. What's the intent? I don't question Chris' intent because I know him. At the same time, I can see exactly how that could be misconstrued: after weeks of testing the system, poking the rules, pushing the limits... When you bend the rules, they sometimes snap back. Now, if you'll excuse me, I hear that Fishbulb might actually be fix'd.
Hi there: Well, let's see here. My suggestion is to not do what you know will irritate someone else. Rules or not. I dont wear my seatbelt because of the rules, I do it because you have to be a moron not to, i.e. it is just the right thing. So, please, try this. Put aside the "rules" for one minute. Think before you post: Based on what I know of the people who are on this board, will this PO someone? If it is evenly remotely reasonable that it might, don't do it. If you have a personal problem with someone, PM THEM! I do that and it works wonders. I am not sure what purpose it serves to humiliate and insult each other. This goes for all of us, me too. I can be a bit of a wise ass, and if I sense I went over the line, I try to work it out. You are all smart people. Please make this **** go away, and start fresh right NOW.