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Can the Audi R8 really depreciate this much?

Discussion in 'Other German' started by jonesn, Sep 11, 2007.

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  1. jonesn

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  2. karmavore

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    Sounds good to me... does this take into account the hit it will take when the convertible, V10, and DIESEL versions hit?
     
  3. jonesn

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    I'm just glad to see those kind of numbers. I was waiting years for the new Acura NSX to come out, but now that the Audi appropriately replaced it as the mid-range technological showcase, I'd much rather spend $70k on the R8.
     
  4. MGD416

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    depreciation depends on what the demand is for the car not just what yahoo thinks itll be. so if there is a super high demand for the cars they will be selling with a premium for a little while... then depreciate but it just depends on how the consumer feels about the car and how many cars there are

    supply and demand
     
  5. switchcars

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    No. counterexample to prove that their "calculations" are wrong:

    http://autos.yahoo.com/porsche_gt3_coupe-price/

    2007 Porsche GT3. 1st year depreciation $20,244.
    Good luck finding one for less than sticker price, even with a couple thousand miles.

    Yahoo's depreciation curve might work for mass-production luxury cars, but for the uber-limited cars, that just won't be the case.
     
  6. jonesn

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    Ah, if it sounds too good to be true....
     
  7. wingfeather

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    CAN it? Yes.

    Will it? Who knows... Audi resale values tend to hit the fan after a few years.
     
  8. starboy444

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    Something with these German supercars....they just don't have the prestige and desireability like they think they do. SLR, R8, etc....

    Is it only Italian machines that can hold their value?
     
  9. wingfeather

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    Ask that question of Maserati owners. Or Fiat owners.
     
  10. David_S

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    Or those that paid close to $200k for the first few Testarossas :)
     
  11. starboy444

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    We're talking about supercars......all Ferrari 'supercars' have increased or held their value much more than any other. (Enzo, F40, GTO etc...)

    Jaguar XJ220? Aston Martin Vanquish? Mclaren SLR? All worth about 1/2 as MSRP now.
     
  12. FerrariF50lover

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    Ford GT prices are sticking where they are at if not rising.
     
  13. starboy444

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    Because Ford finally designed a half decent retro race car, and didn't make 25,000 of them.
     
  14. James_Woods

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    Aren't we just buying into somebody else's speculation here?

    From what I was told, you can hardly lay hands on one of these R8 anywhere - so who can really
    be bold enough to plot out a 7 year depreciation plan?

    This could actually be the one that breaks the Audi depreciation rule.

    But then, I thought the 70s Quattro would be the one, too.
     
  15. DriveAfterDark

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    If you can't handle the depreciation you can't afford the car.


    Bad thing for those of you who buy the high end cars new, good (as is gets) news for those of us who wait.
     
  16. Aureus

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    BMW McLaren F1? Porsche 959? Mercedes Benz 300SL Gullwing? Porsche 993 GT2? Porsche 911 Carrera RS?

    Nor is the car in question, the Audi R8 a supercar. Its a 100k sports car.
     
  17. masterflex164

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    ya, I think its a bunch of BS. I was looking at the rates on a camry hybrid, and they say depreciation for year 1 is 4,012$, which is completely wrong!! My dad bought one last year for 24,500$, drove it around 10,300 miles, and traded it in last thursday for 23,500$ for a brand-spanking new Audi Q7. Yahoo Autos is usually terribly unreliable in my expierence.
     
  18. masterflex164

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    also, I don't think Audi is as stupid as Merc, when it launched its SLR. They said it would be limited-run, but there were tons made. I think Audi will keep r8 production hush-hush, and the price will keep rising over time, and never drop like a falling rock, like usual german cars. ISn't the r8 a limited-production car? or mass-produceD?
     
  19. James_Woods

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    So true on the SLR. Besides the fact that for half the money you could buy a V12 TT AMG which was (nearly) every bit its equal and with a folding top, too.

    I thought the R8 was supposed to fit the semi-production slot that the 997TT and the new Aston Martin V8 is in.

    But these early R8 cars may actually take a hit themselves if they up the engine spec. like all the rumours say.
     
  20. DriveAfterDark

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    Made on order.
     
  21. starboy444

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    Agreed.

    Can't really compare the R8 to anything over $250,000.
     
  22. masterflex164

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    exactly, Merc didn't do this for the SLR.
     
  23. tritone

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    ....been offered MSRP+taxes+$25k for my car arrriving Friday. NFS.
    james
     
  24. rodsky

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    Ferrari supercars covers a very small population of cars - Enzo 400, F40 1300, F50 349, 288 etc. So its obvious that the rarity alone will keep their prices high. The mass produced cars will depreciate over time. 360, 430, 456, 550, 575, 612 and eventually the 599. Only the rare ones are starting to go up - 512M, Daytona, 246GTS etc.
     
  25. GTB4NART

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    I have an R8 on order for several reasons. One of the reasons is that Audi wants to reverse the sentiment that their cars depreciate quickly. They have already said that they will keep R8 production down to keep demand up. It would cost them more in the long run to produce double the number of R8's. People on this board say that Ferraris hold their value. As a potential 612 buy in the used market, I can tell you that is not true (recent 4k mile 612 I looked at stickered for $305k and sold for $212k).

     

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