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Can you "Chip" a 328 or Mondial 3.2?

Discussion in 'Mondial' started by mondialman, Jun 4, 2007.

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  1. mondialman

    mondialman Karting

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    Just wondering about the most cost effective horsepower upgrades for these cars.
     
  2. GrigioGuy

    GrigioGuy Splenda Daddy
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    The 3.2 uses a Bosch K-Jetronic injection system. It's more of a distributed carburetor than a modern injection system. There's not really a central chip to replace.
     
  3. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    Nope... no chip without replacing the digiplexes to something more modern like an Electromotive XDI.
     
  4. Verell

    Verell F1 Veteran
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    Even if you went to a newer ECU, you wouldn't gain much. Ferrari tuned the 4V engines up about as much as the K-Jet would permit. Big win is either a supercharger, a full EGI conversion, or retrofit Webers - neither are cheap optoins.
     
  5. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    Webers are probably the simplest and least expensive at about $3 - 4K - it goes up from there.
     
  6. Bad Dogg

    Bad Dogg Formula Junior

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    what Russ said....

    Or turbochargers a la Norwood!!

    Not for the faint of foot!!
     
  7. Mike C

    Mike C F1 Veteran
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    ... or faint of wallet!! :p
     
  8. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    +1...WHAT HE SAID! :)
     
  9. frankty

    frankty Rookie

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    Check out my EFI install here: http://www.employees.org/~fty/efi/efi.html
    As previously posted, not for the faint of heart ..

    When finally done, it's *wonderful* and if you add any more stuff (like a blower) the computer deals with it.

    cheers,
    - Frank
     
  10. snj5

    snj5 F1 World Champ

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    VERY impressive! Would love to hear your driving assessment once it is tuned, and especially any dyno numbers.
    Very well done!
     
  11. mondialman

    mondialman Karting

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    Thank you all for your answers.
     
  12. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

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    have you considered just putting a better free flowing exhaust on it. I have a friend with a gtb 88 model that Did Hyperflow cat and Tubi and took the car to a Dyno and it registered 290. Up from the stock 260.. Just an idea...





    Also not faint of wallet
     
  13. lee328gts

    lee328gts Formula Junior

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    Hey Jay, Would it be possible to post your friends dyno chart. I have the same set up as your friend with a new K&N air filter installed on my 87 328. Thanks, Lee
     
  14. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

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    I will ask him if he has a printout. He mentioned also "European Timing" Im sure someone can mention what that means. Back to the podcast you remember me dont ya>???
     
  15. frankty

    frankty Rookie

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    Thanks - It's pretty well tuned now. A little rich at higher RPMs which is not really a bad thing - err on the side of rich as a lean mixture can cause damage.

    Getting the "volumetric efficiency" table right has been tedious and will be nearly a never-ending process, depending how picky you want to be.
    What's most noticeable is the improvement in torque and smoothness at lower RPM - the "drivability" of the car is much improved. I will hopefully get a chance to dyno at the end of the summer. The car has a Stebro exhaust and K&N filter as well.

    If anyone that's interested gets out to Eastern NC (Raleigh) give me a shout and I'll be happy to demo. I've been driving the car nearly every day this summer, so have a lot of miles on the new setup.

    cheers,
    - Frank
     

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