CANADIAN GP Race Day ****SPOILER****

The latter.

I think that would be a suitable explanation if either he had the problems with one single set of tyres or if Hamilton had the problems, too. But Alonso drove crappy with all three sets of tyres he used, and we all know what Hamilton did...
Edit: I just read you wrote that Alonso himself said that... well... maybe a bad setup? Or the usual whining

 

It looks like the development of the F2007 is screaching to a halt. Not sure it is purely down to the drivers. There are many people responsible for the car. Raikkonen looks like becoming a massive dissapointment. We are six races into the championship and he never ever came close to his performance in Melbourne. Which is curious.

Raikkonen is a very good driver, but somehow he seems to lacks the pace. Perhaps the frustration of seeing both the McLaren boys and even Massa ahead, is playing tricks on him. In the Mac, he lost out on wins and podiumfinished because the car would brake down. In the Ferrari, he just isn't good enough for these results. Very remarkable. Very dissapointing.

 

Why were Massa and Fisi given black flags rather than drive-thru penalty? Being completely kicked out of the race seems VERY harsh for what they did.

 

I'm sorry but that is some of the funniest **** I have ever heard! Does anyone really think if Hamilton goes to Ferrari he will face racism? ROFL x 1000!

If Schumacher does stay retired then on current form Hamilton is probably the main guy Ferrari should be chasing to have similar results to the Schumacher years in the future..

 

Poor poor Massa, and Kubica!
And a short comment for Kimis another "im gonna sleep thru the whole race" attitude:

 

Congrats to Lewis on the win! Also congrats to BMW Sauber and Williams for getting their first podiums of the season.

Montoya got disqualified in Canada before for also going through the red light. I don't understand why they even have a light. Can anyone explain?

 

In training sessions, it's obvious I think - red when there's no training time.

In the race or specifically when the safety car is on the track, drivers in the pits aren't allowed to exit the pit lane when the SC with the cars assembled behind pass by, simply security reasons. Otherwise drivers might want to gain some positions by accelerating hard out of the pitlane and just diving back into the field.

 

WTF???!!! Isn't Hamilton the FIRST black driver PERIOD??? You think Ferrari would care about the color of his skin??? (ren0312, not cgt)

Raikkonen is looking more and more like Ferrari's version of Schumacher...RALF Schumacher. Boneheaded move by Massa, but at least he was competing. Kimi was letting any and everybody by him. I just realized that I've been blaming the car for 5 of his 6 races this year (there MUST be a mech problem...).

I think it's time to acknowledge that there may be a loose nut behind the steering wheel. He doesn't look like the bold driver that was with McLaren the last few years. Very disappointed!

 

spot on !

at this level it is all in the mind and Kimi seems to have some demons he needs to get rid of VERY quickly because at the moment he seems to be a $56M mistake and is tearing the heart out of the tifosi (and Andreas as well )

If he wins a race soon he will be back in the hunt but a couple more loses and he will lose heart totally

 

He's actually half black. His father is black and mother is white. Similar to Tiger Woods in that he's half black yet everyone forgets his Asian mother and just calls him black.

 

I agree GTE, but like I said I've been blaming the car for 5 of 6 races. Maybe it's time to look behind the wheel. Up until Monaco, Massa seemed to be doing pretty well with the car and looked poised to finish 2nd or 3rd this race before being black-flagged.

 

In this country, if you're 1% black you're black (or so it seems). I think the only time a mixed-race person is considered the other ethnicity is if it's someone like Tiger or Lewis.

 

Anyone have any opinions on the internal situation within Ferrari? Much of the reports from within the team last year were that Luca signed Kimi and gave MS the ultimatum to race alongside him or leave. This would also have left Massa without a drive. MS, while not wishing to retire then (ie. this season) had wanted to continue for another couple of seasons.

Jean Todt allegedly also wanted to retain MS and FM for 2007.

If that was the case (and would also explain why there appears to be a 'team within a team' at the moment with MS, FM and JT -see recent photos) then Luca definitely backed the wrong (and very expensive) horse..

Wonder how the Ferrari team feel knowing the guy lounging around looking a bit lost, not knowing what to do with his time, would certainly be putting in some amazing drives if he were out on the track instead of Kimi..?

 

Just finished watching the race on tape and my full congrats to LH for a splendid drive...

Thank God RK is alright...

FA's escapades were hysterical and served nicely to offset the total boredom of KR's drive...I'll take a lot less money from Ferrari to aimlessly drive around in a GP...Massa at least showed some spirit...

Congrats to Sato..

I think the Scuderia's luck will change at Indy as it is a high speed circuit....I see MS in the car doing development work....

 

Indeed.

I can't believe what I'm seeing and I don't buy any excuses. He should be driving the wheels off the Ferrari and annihilate his #2 but he isn't. His Canada "performance" was as bad as the one in Monaco.

What drives me nuts is that I know the guy has the talent to go for the title, but he seems amazingly disinterested. He drives like the other/wrong Schumacher(as somebody so poignantly mentioned).

If he doesn't find his feet soon, they have to sack him. I'm no fan of Massa, but at least he is doing his best and does all one can expect of a #2.

But if they sack Kimi, who could take his place? Seriously. MS is retired, so who could go there? My favourite scenario is, that Lewis bags the title, Alonso gets pissed and leaves McLaren in a fit and replaces Raikkoenen at Ferrari. One can dream...

 

I have a feeling Alonso would develop the Ferrari more than KR and FM can do and leave Mclaren behind a little. I don't think Lewis is doing as much as FA in development of the car.

 

Not only did FA drive recklessly but incompetently as well; at least KR was only incompetent....

FA won in Canada last year whereas LH was never on the circuit before; if I'm FA I'm thanking God that Nadal won the French Open so that will be the lead story in the Spanish sports media tomorrow...must likely followed by LH's waxing of FA...

 

I didn't get to watch any of the race. Does anyone know where I can download the whole race?

PLEASE!!!


Thanks

 

Speed TV is showing the replay later this week...check their website...

 

Download it on torrentspy when the torrent come up in a day or so. http://torrentspy.com/search.asp?query=VadaOmBZng%3D%3D&key=089128968988

 

This sucks. Ferrari needs to get MS in there to develop the car. At least for this year, until they can find a replacement for Kimi. I don't want to see Alonso in a Ferrari, but it's looking more and more like a possibility for next year.

 

+1

As for the thumbs down...what's the big deal? He was just expressing his disappointment. I saw no signs of a poor sport, just a guy who was bummed at making a stupid mistake. If he had smiled and waved at the camera he would have been crucified for not caring about losing.

Of course, I haven't seen or heard a post race interview with Felipe, so my opinion could change if he doesn't own up to his mistake...

 

Yes, but I feel reluctant in saying that Kimi is a dissapointment. I want there to be a simple explanation as to why Kimi isn't getting the results. Today, Ferrari claimed Kimi had a damaged car. First something at the start, then a bit of Kubica's car. I don't know. I only know that Kimi doesn't seem to be a threat to the McLaren's and Massa is leading the Ferrari-attack as it is.

Surely this was not the scenario Maranello had in mind when they signed Kimi.

However, as the season marches on, Kimi seems to get more and more lacklustre behind the wheel of the Ferrari. He really needs to raise his game. Not only for himself, but also for the team, taking points away from McLaren.

If the past 4 races are illustrating what Kimi can do for Ferrari, then Ferrari would do well in looking further for a true teamleader. How much as I like Massa, he probably isn't the one to spearhead Ferrari into their next winning streak. And if it takes Alonso, then by all means, get Fred signed. I don't care, I just want to see Ferrari win.

 

Historically speaking in the United States at least, if you even had a drop of black blood you were black and Jim Crow law applied to you. Everyone in Asia forgets that Tigers father is black. Amazing what one can overlook when motivated to. Great Britain has had a different history with race due to its colonies and has always been quite a bit ahead in many aspects.

 

What the heck?

A quarter of the race was a parade. That's more SC laps than some whole seasons.

Okay, who said they wanted to see Kimi "kick Massa's butt"? I don't think Kimi honking his front wing into the rear of Massa's car was what was meant.

Kimi is pretty inconsistent on the starts, this year. He let Massa stroll past him.


New Safety Car rules: Pffftt!!! Pitting under the SC is a 10-15 spot penalty. Even without getting a 10 sec stop-and-go for coming in rather than running out of gas on circuit.

So let's see: you can't pit until the SC has bunched up the traffic, so anyone who doesn't pit gets ahead of anyone who does. And the pit exit goes red so you have to catch up to the pack after your stop -- so you're on cold tires trying to run up to the pack. Didn't work for Trulli. And having cars on cold tires trying to run fast doesn't strike me as a good thing if you needed the SC in the first place.

Given the fiasco SC rules, and the massive number of positions ticking past, I can understand how "get there-itus" could make a driver miss the pit exit light. Rules piled on rules.


I'll say this for Alonso: in the post-race comments, he didn't immediately start blaming the universe: "After that I had to push as hard as possible because I was stuck in the middle of the field and when you push to the maximum you sometimes go off track but at that stage there was nothing to lose."

Well, that doesn't explain the first lap excursion. But maybe the boy is learning to lose with dignity. Now if his manager, brother, girlfriend, or whoever doesn't talk him into playing the "excuse" card, it might be a good learning year for Fernando.

Yes, four times over that curb likely had something to do with it, but getting the short shaft of the luck can't be good for morale. Getting passed by Sato can't be thrilling either.

I think Fred needs a good stiff drink and some down time to get his head together. I hope he gets some before the USGP circus starts in on him.

And Kimi perhaps should stick to milk at Indy.

I'm glad to see Hamilton win a race, and he did a good start. But considering that Hamilton and Wurz were about the only two drivers who didn't get the whammy from the SC fiascos, Hamilton has to write this one up to never having had someone able to challenge him line up behind him and the SC. Hamilton deserves to win a race, rather than a parade.

I don't think we can conclude anything about any of the drivers or teams from this mess. This circuit is trying to out-Monaco Monaco.

Oh, Canada. (sigh)p)