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Cancelled Pista Spider Orders

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by Scraggy, Sep 29, 2019.

  1. Scraggy

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    There is no doubt the world is changing and the Spider is no 458SA in terms of investment potential but I must admit (with one in production) I was shocked to hear by a reliable UK source that outright cancellations are picking up quite fast........I also had a friend offered one just last week by Maranello Egham for early 2021.
     
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  3. SoCal to az

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    A Pista delivery in 2021????
     
  4. ttforcefed

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    There are just too many new cars out from too many manufacturers. I know several US dealers wont write checks for pistas. Took 2 yrs for that to happen to tdfs. Too many weak hands buying the new stuff.


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  5. SoCal to az

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    Agree. I’m buying the Pista not for investment purposes but because I like it. But yes- used cars are starting to sound really good with what new ones Msrp is....
     
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  6. Shack

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    Could be a UK specific thing with Brexit et al
     
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  8. ttforcefed

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    Drove my cs for 60 miles. Forgot how point and go it is. So much fun on the backroads.
     
  9. Reiziger

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    Given those orders are RHD, does that imply they would likely command a premium only in the UK market? If they arent built yet, could the build slot be changed to LHD for a european customer? Or will they be built regardless RHD and up to the UK dealer to find a buyer?

    Hypothetically if there were enough available new, then could we see used Pistas being sold under MSRP in a year or two? That would be an interesting twist, given how well Special Series cars in particular have held their value historically.
     
  10. mkraft3003

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    As Shack said, probably a Brexit thing. In the US all allocations are long gone and I understand that most dealers only have a handful of deliveries left to deliver. If there is a cancellation someone should grab it because it’s an amazing car.
     
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  11. obbob

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    Fully agreed that it’s an amazing car. However, I noticed that Pista allocations were not especially difficult to get. I know a couple of buyers who just owned a 488 GTB as the only Ferrari purchase they’ve made and then received Pista allocation

    Also, I’m beginning to suspect that there’s a lot of Pista for sale already. They aren’t listed online, but I’ve entered two dealership showrooms recently and both had several Pista sitting there, but not listed online.
     
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  13. SoCal to az

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    Where are you located? In the US it was a very difficult allocation. Not at all easy to get.
     
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  14. Xrayv8

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    I had stopped by my dealer yesterday and can confirm that all US allocations are gone and in fact my dealer had to refund about 10 deposits they had taken last year. They expected more allocations but due to the F8 coming out in 2020, there was no way to get more pista units completed before they start the F8 production. My order went in just before the factory close down in July with Bianco Italia which usually delays production by 2 months but my car is now Red 10 and they expect it to be completed by the end of October/early Novemeber and in the states by December.

    My sales manager also confirmed that anyone who got a spider allocation had to decide between the hardtop and convertible and was not allowed to have both of them. As a matter of fact, one client was taking delivery of his PISTA spider and I did ask him this same question if he had to take one or the other, so he took the spider.
     
  15. mkraft3003

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    Not sure where you are located but In The US they were very difficult to get. I had to pay a premium on mine as I called about 20 dealerships searching for one and was told that the allocations were long gone. I had even posted on here for help finding one.
     
  16. ttforcefed

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    You got taken. Was with a guy today who owns 3 ferrari dealerships / his comment regarding the us market: “almost anyone was able to get one...”
     
  17. mkraft3003

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    That’s a funny one!!!! See if your friend has a Pista spider allocation available since anyone can buy one.
     
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    They are amazing cars but Ferrari is making so many of them. It's going to be interesting to see how all this is going to play out when everyone who has a one year do not sell agreement puts them up for sale at the same time. I hope it doesn't for the owners, but my guess is that this is going to play out exactly like the 2RS, where almost everyone (including myself) thought Porsche were going to be judicious with the supply and they just kept making more, and the whole thing fell apart.

    I also wonder how all those folks who bought cars they didn't want to get to get a car like the Pista feel about Ferrari changing the game mid stream, first by making so many of them and then adopting the McLaren model by undermining their own track version whilst still in production with an almost identically performing regular series F8.

    It's going to be very interesting moving forward for this brand. They diluted the carrot that made people buy the less desirable cars like a bloated Lusso and accept taking a $100k hit year one and pissed off many of the ones who had already done so at the direction of their dealership.
     
  19. mkraft3003

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    The Pista was only a 6 month no sell agreement. I think the days of cars holding their value (or appreciating) are over. I’ve gone into every supercar purchase expecting them to depreciate. Some (2 of my 3 McLaren) faster than others. I buy the cars to enjoy and don’t worry about the depreciation. Life’s too short.
     
  20. dustman

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    I found the pista relatively easy to get. Had 3 dealers in 2 states that I could have ordered from. Ultimately went local and msrp with no Lusso etc purchase needed.
     
  21. mkraft3003

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    Mind sharing which dealers? I’m sure people on here would love to know for the future. Always good to have options.
     
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  22. SoCal to az

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    I managed to get an allocation but have several friends who tried hard and were not able to. Our local dealership got 11 coupes and 5 spiders only. Not a lot of cars.
     
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  23. SoCal to az

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    Man- that’s new news to me. I’ve experienced the complete opposite with my friends.
     
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  24. Rory breaker

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    So you’re saying you folks in this thread were able to walk into a dealer with no prior purchase history, and you now have a Pista you spec’d, in your hands, with no other spend needed?
     
  25. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Id believe ttforce everyday; his car collection speaks for himself!


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  26. SoCal to az

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    His collection sucks. Does he actually own any real cars?? ;)
     
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  27. Gh21631

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    So far from the truth but people love to tell stories.
     
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  28. Gh21631

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    Not in the US but perhaps in other markets - believe me I tried and I have several friends with Pistas and the same for all.
     

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