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Cant see the point of an F car...

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Azzuro, Oct 22, 2005.

  1. hedge

    hedge Formula 3

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    I owned a new M3 cabrio which was fab. Sold it and bought the 328 with a few k change to boot and it was the best thing I could have done. M3 is a great car but does not have the heart and soul of a Ferrari. I would not swap back for all the tea in China.

    There are about a dozen 3 series cabrios in the station car park every day, 3 of which are M3's..they are (relatively) common, and not close to being as much of an occassion to drive. A host of Boxsters, a couple of 911's including a new 996 Turbo. Guess how many Ferrari's..

    That said, I got the F as a toy and would not drive it daily..for that the M3 wins. But I'm still not swapping.
     
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  3. ferrari355gtb

    ferrari355gtb Formula 3

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    You should have gone for the CSL for a few K more then I might have believed you.

    I used to think my CSL was as quick as my old 355 - from A to B it probably is but compared to the 360F1 there's no comparison (and I don't think the 360 is that much quicker than the 355). It's such a special occasion driving the 360 (the 'X' factor) or any F car.

    Rick
     
  4. D11VE:J

    D11VE:J Formula 3

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    Its when I read such twaddle that I can say to you all that I am absolutely right in what I say, it is usually the unsubscribed non Ferrari owning twerps that start rows on this forum. I don't like Guiness because I never tried it!!!

    If you want a BMW M3 good for you, perhaps one day you will buy a Ferrari for what it is good for, enjoying a first class piece of engineering that has style and panache, yes your BMW does have some of this, but as you have never owned a Ferrari or obviously had the passion for a dream car, stick with the bread and butter car, seen one you have seen millions. Its no wonder you are asking the silly question your thread proposes. Uhhhh. Least the M3 is better than an Audi Murcielago, having driven both.

    Back for a moment and gone again.

    D11VE:J
     
  5. 5to1

    5to1 Formula Junior

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    CSL????????? :)
     
  6. 5to1

    5to1 Formula Junior

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    1) There are a few cars for <30k that could do everything the M3 does and more performance wise. Some are just as practical. A couple have been mentioned.

    So applying your logic. The only reason you bought the M3 was your ego I suppose.

    If you could only afford the EVO, you would now be posting on the BMW forums.

    2) You may not want to park an F in an NCP. Use it as a daily driver. But I (Lambo in my case) and many of my friends do use our cars in such a way.

    So if its a garage queen, its the owners fault not the cars!

    BTW the M3 (E46 I assume) is a great car and IMO has alot of passion and soul. I'm sure you will enjoy it.
     
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  8. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    Oh yeah, forgot about CSL :eek: ;)
     
  9. burriana

    burriana Formula 3

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    Do us a favour and piss off to another forum with your trouble causing. We have had enough trolling recently on here to last us a lifetime.

    M3s, great cars, but you are doing your fellow M3 drivers no favours.
     
  10. angelis

    angelis F1 Veteran
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  11. KenC

    KenC Formula 3

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    Having sold an M3 convertible and Lotus Elise to buy my 360 i can say that that combination of cars gave me practicality and fun for all my drives. However, enen combiningthe talents of both these cars they provided nothing even approaching the Ferrari ownership proposition.

    My M3, great as I thought it was, lasted just over a year. At the moment I cannot think of the day I woudl want to sell my Ferrari. That says it all to me.

    I may well buy another M car in the future, but it would be to supplement a Ferrari.
     
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  13. Hud

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    When i was poor i owned an m3.
     
  14. stevep

    stevep F1 Veteran

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    plenty of cars for under 30k that are better than an m3 performance and useability wise. M3's are like arseholes, everyone has one
     
  15. Albert V8

    Albert V8 Formula Junior

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    ****!

    I bought the wrongs cars :(
     
  16. 360stimo

    360stimo Formula 3
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    Interesting comments. I have a 360 and an M3. UFO's first post about how good the M3 is, is spot on. I love it and as an everyday car that is quick, handles well, gets 4 people in comfortably, has a decent boot and looks good. He is right. I personally love the SMG, think its great, especially in London. I have lived with it for 3 years, i guess the negative comments on it havent lived with it for a while or got used to it, just drove one and made up their minds, ah well.

    BUT

    The 360 is completely different in everyway possible. The driving sensation couldnt be further apart. The BMW is great for all i have written above, but its built to be a quick, useable everyday car, the 360 doesnt try and do anything the BMW was built for.

    To bring ego's into this is plain ridiculous and you obviously havent read much on this board, where people use their cars, help others out, organise trips etc etc.

    After sharing some pm's with you about my 360 that is for sale, i can only conclude that you cant afford one and are very bitter about it.

    Get over it, your day will come, stop being childish.
     
  17. 360stimo

    360stimo Formula 3
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    oi !
     
  18. jtremlett

    jtremlett F1 Rookie

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    Well I feel sorry for you! I am on my fourth BMW and it is a very good car. But it is just that. A car. A Ferrari has soul! A Ferrari has passion!!! I have loved Ferraris since I was 4 or 5. I don't drive mine every day, but when I do I have a grin on my face for a week afterwards. It doesn't matter if other cars are faster. I drive it purely for my own enjoyment. As it happens it gives others enjoyment as well.

    Let me tell you a little story. A couple of weeks ago I was in France with the Ferrari. A chap I had never met before happened to be passing and saw my car. He was effusive in his comments and told me his son dreamed about Ferraris. Could I possibly take his son for a ride as his 12th birthday was coming up? Of course, but unfortunately his son was at school and I was catching the afternoon ferry. Well, a little while later he returned. He had pulled his son out of school and brought him along blindfolded. You should have seen that kids face when he took off the blindfold and saw the Ferrari!!! That and the ride round gave me as least as much pleasure as it did him.

    Oh, and by the way, that has never happened to me with any of my four BMWs...

    You either 'get it' or you don't. End of story.

    Jonathan
     
  19. 360stimo

    360stimo Formula 3
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    well said !
     
  20. G7RYE

    G7RYE Karting

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    Having owned 2 M3's a 360 and now a mentioned &#163;30K car that is as fast as 340FQ! I can also conclude that the M3 is stunning for what it is, (although specced up to the max is over &#163;50K new, which then makes you think about another &#163;15K for a 997?) Can't really see the need to slate a car you have never owned though? why not just start a thread "O/T My M3?"....

    I loved the 360, but sold it for what I thought were the right reasons when the little 'un came along. Owning a Ferrari was a dream come true, it really was, but, and this is in no way an intentional put down of F cars, I must say I felt a little dissapointed as I didn't feel it was as magical as I'd anticapated all those years. (bit like James May driving the countach on TG?)

    Still, I think I will have another one day, but for the love of the marque, the meetings, events and the top notch people I have met through owning one, but they aren't the out and out performance machine I had originally thought.
     
  21. F328GTS

    F328GTS Formula 3

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    Great post Jason!
     
  22. Carbonrider

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    Not a lot to add but:

    I have own both M3 (nice car, nothing to write home about), M5 (much better, even if heavier and not as chuckable) and swapped it all for a 575.

    Every car is compromise even a ‘super car’ like the Maranello.
    I cannot take more then one friend, I do look ridiculous loading that tiny boot at the garden nursery and have to arrange delivered for just about anything.

    Then again, the M cars where a similar compromise comparing to my SAAB 93.

    I will have enough time for boring cars when I have family and kids… though lots of people here fo a have a family and keep the Fcar, I have driven very long European distances with both my M5 and with 575. If you cannot appreciate the difference, well, good for you. I mean, why buy a Premiere Cru Bordeaux when you can for a tenth of the price buy a table wine. The get you drunk just the same don’t they?
     
  23. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    Or even Jonathan :)
     
  24. F328GTS

    F328GTS Formula 3

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  25. geofflowe

    geofflowe Formula Junior

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    Had an E30 M3 (the proper one) which i have to admit was an excellent car. However, the 328 is 'what it is' and although it won't go round corners as well it sure as hell makes a nicer noise and gives me a huge amount of pleasure driving it. The newer M3's sound a bit 'tinny' IMHO - can't beat 32v V8 ( or one of them fangled V12's either - sorry MarkC.....)!
     
  26. The Don

    The Don Karting

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    Had a couple of M3's rev off when they see my Testarossa. Makes the most ridiculous noise. Of course I never do what they do because I have nothing to prove.
     
  27. Jas

    Jas Formula 3

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    BMW.....yawn...... sorry where were we?
     
  28. barabus

    barabus F1 Rookie

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    The least you could do kam is let them suffer your exhaust:D:D:D
     

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