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  1. Spyder-Man

    Spyder-Man Formula 3

    May 11, 2004
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    Guy's me 355 (Borsch 2.7) won't start and I've been all over the electrics like a nasty rash. The good news was that it dicided to break down as I was reversing it into the garage after a trip up to London, so I was not stranded miles from home.

    All of a sudden the engine cuts out and will not restart. It turns over but not firing. Sounds like the immobliser is playing tricks and it's off to the nice chaps at Kent High performance for some TLC.

    Still, better it to happen prior to spring / summer being here.

    Gutted

    R
     
  2. Steve_nero

    Steve_nero Formula Junior

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  3. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    sorry to hear this m8 :(
     
  4. Spyder-Man

    Spyder-Man Formula 3

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    well, after leaving for a while, I've managed to start the beast and got it back into the garage for the nite. I'll still take it down to KHPC and get them to give it the once over and remove the immobliser. As according to my insurance mob (LV) the immobliser does not affect the premium.

    Ho hum ! ! !

    The light is still switched on at the end of the tunnel, it's just a bit dimmer!

    R
     
  5. ric355

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    As far as I was aware, and I'm willing to be corrected on this, immobilisers stop the engine from turning over altogether. If it turns over but doesn't start, then perhaps it's more likely to be an ignition or a fuel problem.
     
  6. 360CS

    360CS F1 Rookie

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    Soory Ric,

    Mine turns and doesnt start :)
     
  7. RF128706

    RF128706 Formula Junior

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    Hi there, not necessarily. In order to get Thatcham 1 or 2 rating the immobiliser must deactivate a minimum of 2 "critical" circuits, e.g. Spark (ignition coils) and Fuel (injector controller circuit or fuel pump). The third potential circuit is the starter solenoid. If you've a system that does all 3 then great, but if it's only the starter then not so great because you can just bypass the starter motor immobiliser with 1 jump-lead in seconds !
     
  8. F328GTS

    F328GTS Formula 3

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    You have my sympathy mate, I was there myself on Monday, but got her started on Tuesday. It is a horrible feeling.
     
  9. matkat

    matkat Formula 3

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    on My car(1999 5.7)You can turn the car(factory standard) over but it will not start,had the problem a month ago(it was the immobiliser battery)
    Dave Mc
     
  10. MarkCollins

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    On my '96 car it wouldn't turnover if the Immobilisor was set so I'd go with the fuel/ ignition problem
     
  11. tonyh

    tonyh F1 World Champ
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    Clive,
    do you have the little plug in immobiliser? If so, check the contact area is clean . i could'nt start my car on 1 set of keys because the contact was playing up. Works fine now.
     
  12. Spyder-Man

    Spyder-Man Formula 3

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    Right, managed to drive the car to the chaps at Kent High performance this Am. About 5 mins away from the garage, the car starts to backfire and almost cuts out on multiple occasions. Only a heavy foot keeping it going.
    Get it to the lads, they plug in diag kit and it shows that TDC sensor is not a happy chappy. So up on the ramp and remove the undertray and they find that the front pulley is loose and is around 1 inch from where it should be located, hence the TDC sensor is skipping it's rerading. Means that the engine has to come out to retighten and fix the pulley

    I've been on the blower to the dealer who sold me the car (with cam belts changed at that time) and explained to him about it. So, a bit up in the air at the moment until KHPC drop the engine and see if the securing bolt for the front pulley is loose, or the part is defective.

    I can only say that I'm glad that this issue did not cause a greater amount of damage, i.e. wearing belts and valve bounce!

    I'll post updates as and when.

    Rob
     
  13. F328GTS

    F328GTS Formula 3

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    Sounds nasty. How long have you had it, and where did you get it from?
     
  14. closeshave

    closeshave Formula 3

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    Sounds like you were quite lucky to me
     
  15. Spyder-Man

    Spyder-Man Formula 3

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    Got the car last May from Nick Cartwright's. Nick's aware of the issue. For the moment, I can only hang ten.

    And yes, think I've been lucky.

    R
     
  16. MarkCollins

    MarkCollins F1 Rookie
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    Very lucky, that could have been a very expensive failure
     
  17. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    ouch! sounds like you could really have been up the creek! Good guys at KHPC so they should sort you out, lucky you live so near! (and got a heavy right foot!)
     
  18. Spyder-Man

    Spyder-Man Formula 3

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    didn't mean to give her a 'footfull' just when needs must. In fact I treat this lady in my life, better than the other one!
     
  19. jeffQV

    jeffQV F1 Rookie

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    good job cars can't read!!!!
     

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