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Car Certification....Is this a joke????

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  1. F512M

    F512M Formula Junior

    Dec 9, 2003
    504
    Houston, TX
    Full Name:
    Jeremy Lawrence
    I stumbled onto this on the owners site. I can't believe anyone would accept these terms and conditions, and pay a $500 "entry" fee, and then an additional minimum of $1200-$5000 just to get a piece of paper telling them that, "Yep, it's a real Ferrari." Is it just me or am I missing something?"

    JL



    Terms and conditions
    1. By delivery of the Application and the Enclosed Documents, the Applicant requests Ferrari
    SpA, Modena, Italy through Ferrari-Maserati Classiche (hereinafter “Ferrari”) to determine
    whether the Car is authentic. The Applicant acknowledges that Ferrari will decide on the
    basis of the authenticity criteria established by Ferrari and posted on the www.owners.ferrari.com
    web site (hereinafter the “Authenticity Criteria”). The Applicant hereby expressly acknowledges
    having read and understood the Authenticity Criteria and that he accepts the same
    as well as the terms and conditions hereof pursuant to which the certification procedure will
    be conducted.
    2. The certification procedure will be carried out in the following manner:
    (i) After having received the Application Form with the Enclosed Documents as
    well as the Entry Fee (see clause 4 hereunder), Ferrari will perform a preliminary review of
    the application. On the basis thereof Ferrari will decide, at its sole discretion, whether to
    continue the certification procedure or to disallow the issuance of the certificate of authenticity
    since, based upon the documents provided by the Applicant, Ferrari believes that the
    Car clearly does not comply with the Authenticity Criteria.
    (ii) Should Ferrari decide to pursue the certification procedure it will be entitled,
    at its discretion, to ask the Applicant to provide such additional documents and/or information
    Ferrari may deem appropriate. Ferrari will also be entitled to free access to the Car and
    to submit it, or part thereof, to technical analysis or to Ferrari’s experts or appointed agents.
    To that effect Ferrari may, inter alia, require, at the expense of the Applicant, that the Car
    be delivered to the authorized Ferrari service centre of Ferrari’s choice or, in absolutely
    exceptional circumstances, shipped to Ferrari in Italy, at Applicant’s expense. Should the
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    Applicant not comply with Ferrari’s requests, the certification procedure will be deemed to
    have been terminated by the Applicant.
    (iii) If Ferrari believes that the Car complies with the Authenticity Criteria, it will
    release a certificate of authenticity (hereinafter the “Certificate of Authenticity”). The Certificate
    of Authenticity may contain qualifications with respect to components (chassis, engine,
    etc.) and/or other elements of the Car. In the event the owner of a Car, for which Ferrari
    has released a “qualified” Certificate of Authenticity, will, in the meantime, have had carried
    out such work as he feels warrants an “unqualified” Certificated of Authenticity, the Applicant
    will always be entitled to file a new application. In such event, Ferrari will start a
    new certification procedure, whereas the Applicant will have to pay only the actual costs
    related to such new procedure.
    (iv) If Ferrari believes that the Car fails to comply with the Authenticity Criteria,
    Ferrari will inform the Applicant, motivating its decision not to issue a Certificate of Authenticity.
    3. Subject only to liability for gross negligence, Ferrari will not be liable towards the Applicant
    and/or any third party who may purchase a car or enter into any type of transaction by virtue
    of the Certificate of Authenticity. Ferrari does not assume any liability in relation to the
    safety of the Car and/or its road suitability under any applicable law or rules. The Applicant,
    for himself, his successors and assignees, waives all and any right whatsoever in this respect.
    4. The Applicant will bear the costs of the certification procedure. In particular, the Applicant
    will pay to Ferrari a non refundable advance in the amount of 500 (five hundred) Euro
    plus taxes (if due) for the preliminary review of the application (the “Entry Fee”). Should
    Ferrari decide to continue the procedure, the Applicant agrees to pay to Ferrari a retainer for
    the costs of the certification procedure, the amount of which will be reasonably determined
    and itemized by Ferrari in view of the tests Ferrari intends to carry out, and notified to the
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    Applicant. The Applicant is aware of the fact that non-payment of such retainer will be deemed
    as termination by the Applicant of the certification procedure. Upon the issuing of the Certificate
    of Authenticity, the Owner shall refund Ferrari for any expenses incurred and not
    included in the above mentioned down payment, as well as for the administration costs, which
    shall be calculated and determined by Ferrari as a lump sum based on the type of vehicle
    certified and any difficulties encountered during the certification procedure. The resulting
    amount, which shall be communicated to the Owner before starting the certification procedure,
    may vary, depending on the vehicle model examined, from a minimum of 1,200 (one
    thousand two hundred) Euros plus taxes (if due) for the vehicles manufactured after 1st January
    1980 (excluding special series vehicles for which the certification costs shall be determined
    from time to time) up to a maximum amount of 5,000 (five thousand) Euros plus taxes (if due)
    for the vehicles manufactured up to 31st December 1979.
    5. The certification procedure, the present application and any dispute arising therefrom
    or in connection therewith, will be governed by Italian law.
    6. Any dispute arising out of or in connection with the certification procedure, its outcome
    or the present application, will be referred to and finally determined by arbitration in accordance
    with the WIPO Expedited Arbitration Rules. The language of the arbitration proceedings
    will be English. The place of arbitration will be Geneva. If the parties deem it
    appropriate in order to facilitate the proceedings, with the agreement of the Applicant, the
    WIPO Arbitration Centre or the arbitrator may direct that all or part of the arbitration be
    conducted online or by using other IT tools.
     
  2. ryalex

    ryalex Two Time F1 World Champ
    Consultant Owner

    Aug 6, 2003
    25,956
    Las Vegas, NV
    Full Name:
    Ryan Alexander
    For all-original 308 owners, it's no joke.
     
  3. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 7, 2003
    23,955
    Full Name:
    C6H14O5
    A properly certified 308 will bring 40k over an uncertified 308.
     
  4. Artvonne

    Artvonne F1 Veteran

    Oct 29, 2004
    5,379
    NWA
    Full Name:
    Paul
    Is this cetificate of authenticity any different than a heritage certificate? I have heard they stopped issuing heritage certificates in lieu of the certification program, anyone concur?
     
  5. RMDC

    RMDC Formula 3

    May 15, 2005
    1,005
    Boston, North Shore
    The Heritage Certificate is still available. They are also providing "original color certificates" - not sure why because the Heritage Certificate verifies original color
     
  6. Steve B

    Steve B Formula Junior

    Dec 23, 2003
    521
    Naperville
    Full Name:
    Steven L. Biagini
    For older and especially vintage Ferraris, this certificate can be very valuable. There are a number of fakes out there and this certificate can verify a car's authenticity.
     
  7. ZINGARA 250GTL

    ZINGARA 250GTL F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jun 21, 2002
    17,499
    PA
    Full Name:
    Ken
    Interesting because I saw this also. Before I sold my Lusso several years ago I tried to get some info from Ferrari. They brushed me off. If I still had the car I would certify it, if only to see if these arrogant "testa duras" actually have any info on the car. Now, when I buy a car I get the original MSRP and, if a used car, the name of the original purchaser. Keeping this stuff is vital. For instance, I know who has my 1965 Vette, what was done to it, and where it resides. Incidently, I paid $4,718 for that 396; brand new.
    Wow! If I had only known!
     
  8. Jdubbya

    Jdubbya The $10 Trillion Man
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 28, 2003
    43,115
    PNW
    Full Name:
    John
    I don't think the heritage certificate is available any longer. The colour certificate is basically the same form but instead of saying that the mechanical components are correct it lists the original colors
     
  9. Greg Z

    Greg Z Formula Junior

    Oct 22, 2006
    468
    Chandler, AZ
    Full Name:
    Gregory L. Zelinski
    ?

    40K?
     
  10. WCH

    WCH F1 Veteran
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Mar 16, 2003
    5,186
    Not a joke. I've submitted two cars.
     
  11. BT

    BT F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa

    Mar 21, 2005
    15,291
    FL / GA
    Full Name:
    Bill Tracy
    It is not a joke, but also not really useful for most newer Ferrari owners (read cars less than about 30 years old). To get a certificate that says your 348 is real seems pretty pointless today.
    BT
     
  12. WilyB

    WilyB F1 Rookie
    Rossa Subscribed

    Feb 23, 2007
    4,272
    AZ
    My Ferrari, the first time I crawled under it, it says: "MADE IN TAIWAN". Do you think I'll pass certification?
     
  13. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jul 3, 2006
    27,855
    Aspen CO 81611
    Full Name:
    FelipeNotMassa
    If you pay $500, yes. :)
     

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