Yes and that's the same conclusion the car companies came to. Lots of trial & error. I think the same thing is happening in some of the other creative endeavors as well
I completely see the benefits of each, and the short falls, if the speed and accuracy is gained in using clay to complete the form, and more easily modify it, then digitized in 3D for CAD/CAM + structural/flow/dynamics digital analysis purposes, then it seems that 3D scanning of the finished clay model is the most efficient IMO they are starting to become more reasonable in cost too! [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZrJsrTT4EA]Jay Leno's Garage: NextEngine's 3D Scanner - YouTube[/ame]
some guys are still doing it "old school" [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HlCg-FOfoc]car design sketching - YouTube[/ame]
designers take on a Maserati based LaFerrari Designer Envisions LaFerrari-Based Maserati Concept - Boldride.com
He could have stopped early on, thrown a shadow and blacked the tires like some of Palmer's old work and moved on to more ideas. Jeff
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but that's what makes life interesting....... i would have done it differently as well,but the fact that someone still uses markers & pencils is unique
my guess is they pulled the board closer for the photo.....no one works in THAT cramped an envirionment you can't get back far enough from the clay to see what you're doing but it makes for a dramatic photo
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"Masters of Modern Design", lists for ~$42 on Amazon. I just got a new copy for $10 delivered from a link on bookfinder.com -- it was Amazon . . . BookFinder.com: Search Results (Matching Books)
It's a great book if you enjoy reading about the people responsible for the design for almost all the cars on the road. I enjoyed reading it.
thanks John, I will look for the book, I haven't actually read it yet. JM2, I was curious some reaction to the remarks/comments made?
just in general, I haven't read the book yet, but am searching it out ...just curious is all your guys' reactions to some of the remarks/opinions? the one reoccurring remark is about making simpler cars, and also about the next generation not as concerned about the same style issues? ...not so sure about that one?
Even a lobbyist should be able to determine that the CTS coupe was a hit and needed to be continued. It can't be that hard to see the obvious. Jeff
A fanboy's two cents . . . . I'm not sure what's meant by "simple" in these quotes or that the word is being used the same way throughout. But I think it's just as easy to be lazy or evasive with "simple" as it is with overdone. (I've hated Rococo since I was a kid and had to live with my mother's antique collecting. But the older I get the more I resist design that reduces to fundamentals so much that there's really nothing left. Johnson's Glass House may be immaculately proportioned and positioned, but there's literally nothing there but shelter and a 360 view. Is that design? Is rap music, or does the lack of melody move it more towards poetry accompanied by a rhythm section with some elements of melody thrown in?) I like the Agera R a lot. But I disagree with CvK when he says that if he lets engineering requirements shape the car he has to end up with a beautiful shape. He may end up with a highly essentialized, simple shape X% of knowledgeable car fans react to strongly, but that's a long way from beautiful. (That essentialized shape could easily be all that's required or even possible given the performance levels we can take for granted these days in sports cars. I only brought up "beauty" because it's a recurring theme in Jeremy's posts.) And if kids think looking at the world on a screen is more or less the same thing as seeing it in person, we have a disaster in the making.
Do I say that? I suppose I do, guilty! ...I see so many designs (auto, architecture, etc) which are simply gaudy or new, and people raving about them as "beautiful:, and all I can think is "no its not!" There are very few truly & purely esthetically "beautiful" designs out there IMO I agree, things can be taken to the extreme, from 'simple' to austere minimalist, which I don't care much for either, but those example are necessary to define the parameters of 'design' as a whole IMO
Who can blame you? If it would make for a better looking car I'd gladly give up performance over, say, 180mph, or give up a tenth to 60. I'd do the same if it made the car more communicative, interactive or better handling.
with the ever increasing "road taxation" systems being imposed by the starbucks-guzzling-i'm-in-govn't-now people (rant off) ...that certainly is the forward trend IMO, and personally I am more impressed by a beautiful overall vehicle design, than all the add-ons & flared body segments for attracting attention to themselves
