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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. NürScud

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    The car on the top looks great.
     
  2. jm2

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    #3102 jm2, Dec 30, 2015
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    upcoming gallery show in Detroit of automotive design sketches & renderings from the '30's - '70's
    the show is of the artwork that was done in designing the cars from that time period
    some very cool work will be on display
    I'll post this in the Michigan section as well for those of you traveling to the NAIAS in January
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    #3103 kerrari, Jan 2, 2016
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    Disappointed by the lack of breakthrough thinking... they all look like developments of current styling to me. Only the silver hoverboard (and that's a 60s flashback) has any futuristic suggestion to it.
    That feeling is only reinforced by the poster above ^^^ - just remember how that 1953 concept would have compared with anything on the roads at that time!
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    That's a shame.

    A M seems poised for one hell of a comeback. (MB engines, they snatched up the head chassis guy from Lotus, etc.)
     
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    it will be fun to watch how all this unfolds
    maybe he just wants A. publicity B. out of court settlement
     
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    the saga continues:
    The Not-So-Crazy Reason Henrik Fisker Is Suing Aston Martin For $100 Million
     
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    looks very slick, want to see the final execution
     
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    Got the 2 volume Mitchell book. Impressive! #4 of 25.

    John: Did not realize/remember that you did the interview with Roy that is in volume 2.

    Jeff
     
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    Yes that was several yrs ago
    How do you like the book?
     
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    I wonder if the aesthetics of the Bentayga will grow on people when the vehicle itself proves to be a capable and quality product, a bit like how the Continental GT grew on folks after a while - I like the Continental GT now, but I had to get used to it. I've got a similar feeling of initial recoil from the Bentayga... although admittedly I often have to recover from a bit of shock over new designs.

    I have been wondering if, like many current Ferraris, it seems to be targeting the design aesthetics that appeal to the Asian markets. Aspects give me visions of a Hyundai homage to Range Rover, albeit with a Bentley face. Which, really surprises me from this particular designer because (my quick web search just told me :eek:) he's the one who designed the 2010 Chevrolet Camaro and the 2004 Buick Velite, both of which were very cool cars of very American design language. The design language of the Bentayga really doesn't speak to me with a British accent.

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    Been going through it but some very interesting discussion in volume 2.

    You have your copy yet?

    Roy also wants me to give him my comments after going through it.

    Was seeing some items that I have not done more than a gloss over so far that give the discussion on the demise of GM Design in the post Mitchell eras. What the corporation did to strip the power. Definitely want to get further into that. Seems to have a first inkling of coming attractions when Jordan got shipped to Germany and Ribycki instituted organizational changes. Obviously well before Mitchell's retirement but seemed to set the stage for all the future politics 10 years later.

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    yes I got my copy
    it's fun to read through some of that material as I was there watching it all unfold
    brings back many memories......both good and some not so good
     
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    I know the Bentayga has received criticism from many quarters for a myriad number of reasons, Bentley SUV? and the design etc.
    Personally, I like the design. It's very closely associated with the Continental GT, which is one of my favorite current designs. It telegraphs the Brand's Design language quite well.
    Conservative? Yes......it's a Bentley.
    When all the hand wringing is over, the ultimate goal is to sell vehicles that represent the brand and can make a profit for the company. I believe the Bentayga will do all these quite well.
    The designer, Sang Yup is a former GM Designer, and I can't say enough good things about his skill set, talent and judgement.
    They're in good hands as long as VW can stay afloat :eek:
     
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    #3121 jm2, Jan 6, 2016
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    It's very difficult to establish a case like this regarding design copyright infrindgement. The fact that the legal brief states that AM does not know what the Force 1 will look like says it all for me. It will be difficult for AM to prove that the Force 1 looks like an AM, but that's for a jury to decide. There are very few 'original' designs, and like music & film, most designs have been influenced by a myriad number of things.
    I seriously doubt Mr. Fiskar will get $100M however, but with the legal system, ya just never know
    I'll have to wait and see the Force 1 for myself. Hopefully it will be in Detroit next week.

    As an aside, many yrs ago when I was Exterior Chief Designer for one of the Pontiac Studios, GM got several letters from BMW telling us to cease and desist from using the Pontiac Twin Port grille designs.
    Truth was , Pontiac started using a Twin Port front end design in 1959 with a horizontal theme. Over the course of years, the grilles became narrower.
    BMW started using a vertical Twin Port front end design in the '30's. As their cars got wider over the years, their grilles became horizontally proportioned.
    The 2 companies front ends converged in the '80's - '90's.
    We didn't copy them & they certainly didn't copy Pontiac. But my position was no one would ever confuse a Pontiac for a BMW :eek: God forbid
    the GM attorneys told them to go 'pound sand'..........and we never responded to their 'demands'
    ultimately, the whole thing went away

    there was also much legal wrangling (no pun intended) over the Jeep 7 vertical port front end V. the Hummer 7 vertical port designs.
    Hummer, along with Pontiac went away.....so another non-issue
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    Did Sang Yup also do the Bentley Speed 6 green show car? The Speed 6 is a design you don't have to make excuses for on the outside or the inside.

    The Bentayga will sell on the Bentley name alone to a good percentage of buyers...
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    yes, he said that was his 1st project at Bentley

    has some Aston look to it as well........no?
     
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    #3124 of2worlds, Jan 6, 2016
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    Because it's painted green? Just kidding.
    No I think it is mostly a unique look the flows well but with some nice Bentley character details.
    The tail lights reminded me of a 1962 Oldsmobile 88 though...
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    '62 Olds 88? :eek:

    Had to go back & look.............you're right!
    Couldn't even recall what the rear of a '62 Olds looked like. I'm slippin'
     

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