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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. NeuroBeaker

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    Neat idea having a gullwing SUV, but...

    SUVs are already very tall vehicles and folks are going to hit their garage ceilings with their doors. The stairs will probably collide with curbs when parallel parking or picking end spaces.

    And the whole thing looks like an oversized Range Rover with a Ford grill. With crap wheels.

    Don't like it. :eek:

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  2. F1tommy

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    Stairway to Heaven with a little to much Misty Mountan Hop mixed in. Rather uninspired design...Add more bling and it will sell.
     
  3. jm2

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    yes & yes!
     
  4. 330 4HL

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    kind of a stretch for the Design Thread, but I was thinking less Led Zep and more Georges Guetary...LOL

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVvGEBDioHg
     
  5. Tcar

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    So they had to raise the floor to get the stairs to fold up under the floor...

    because they raised the floor?
     
  6. NeuroBeaker

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    They had a solution and needed a problem! :D

    All the best,
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    The exterior at least looks cohesive, as in not a camel when no one knew when to stop.

    Gotta wait to see a real interior instead of a rendering. So far it doesn't look they practiced the same restraint.

    A worthy effort. Do wish it had more greenhouse though.
     
  11. kerrari

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    This could be the stupidest /ugliest/ impractical mashup I have ever seen claiming to be a 'design' ... What the?!?!?!
     
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    :eek: indeed
     
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    You are being pretty complimentary with the Range Rover comments, seems more like a Flex modified by one of those TV shows.
     
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    Even automotive journalists judge on looks alone sometimes:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKZHVvqKct0[/ame]

    +++

    I wish they'd bring that Quattro remake they were toying with a few years back to market. ~2800lbs, I think, with the 400hp version of the 2.5-liter I5, manual transmission, simple interior, etc (MTM and others have taken that engine to ~500hp):

    https://www.google.com/search?q=quattro+reissue&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiXs6jlltrLAhWFloMKHUCHDDQQ_AUICCgC&biw=1392&bih=754#tbm=isch&tbs=rimg%3ACQ46wg0fzYaPIjj-Oh4N87irR7lWWMnH9tVnNvlhgcGqFrwL-DiR0FV8ls7mwa7MhbTpUj-IUaicrb6eijwWo2zJDCoSCf46Hg3zuKtHEUeSiJRileEMKhIJuVZYycf21WcRtGe2hd0-w4IqEgk2-WGBwaoWvBFs4_1bhnSlaqioSCQv4OJHQVXyWEXB_1urZPlUKWKhIJzubBrsyFtOkRRsaXS6pI3ToqEglSP4hRqJytvhHN1zS0-JDXFCoSCZ6KPBajbMkMEXzqc-WggGiy&q=Audi%20quattro%20reissue
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  17. Qvb

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    I have a different opinion on the BMW i direction. I agree with what Andrew is saying in general, and particularly in relation to the Prius and the Leaf and the other "push the environment" quirky electric cars. And as Jeff noted, an electric Corolla would not have had the same effect and this is proven out by the failure of the original hybrid Accord. The thing about all the funky looking electric and hybrid cars is that they don't scream "this is the future"! They just look funky. It has been a very long time in the car design world since companies were designing "space age" cars. Cars that came across like they would lead us to flying cars and personal space travel, cars like the Modulo, Ford FX Atmos, Century Cruiser and the Cadillac Cyclone (and so many more). Concept cars have become so similar to what is on the road. I think BMW, being trapped by being a sedan company which, though sporty, is very conservative, used the i brand as a way to not just launch their "funky electric cars" but to break out of their mold and design the future. To have a separate line that is in no way restricted by the run of the mill line up. That is why the i3 is not trying to look like an upscale Prius and the i8 is not just a sporty coupe with an electric powertrain. Both cars, to me, scream "future" more than "funky" and they don't carry any of the baggage that regular BMW's have to carry. Also, being a lifelong BMW "not liker" (M1 obviously not included in that) the i cars are the only BMW's which have styling that interests me. I can imagine that the i3 looks pretty odd in the middle of no where but in LA, I think it looks good, not in a classically beautiful automotive way (obviously) but in a "finally the future is coming" kind of way.
     
  18. jm2

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    That's really humorous. In the new Automobile Magazine 'All Stars' issue the new TT is among the 25 finalists.
    However, contributing writer Steven Cole Smith says, " Handsome update to the original Freeman Thomas design but hardly a revelation. Like it, don't love it. Too bad, because I used to."
     
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    The ones I see on the road around here really stand out, no question of that.
    The latest BMW 100 yr anniversary concept gets at the 'future of the automobile'
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    no intention to 'make it more better'........just more info ;)
     
  22. jm2

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    fun video from FoMoCo 1973 when the Gov mandated safety standards were just beginning to shape the future of the automobile
    how things have changed since then....

    'An inside look circa 1973 at Ford Design as they grapple with government mandated safety guidelines including, seat belts, air bags, crash tests, and crumple zones in vehicles.' from deansgarage.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2v8-nXmEPM
     
  23. hashiriya

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    #3373 hashiriya, Mar 27, 2016
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    Oh, those '70s sketches... simply terrible renderings with awkward geometry...
    Makes me thank God the cars were not as ugly as they appeared on the paper.

    BTW, I'm a big fan of Bill Mitchell's design studio at GM (60s-70s), those guys could create some really long lasting designs and they had amazing drawing skills...
     
  24. jm2

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    Bill Mitchell was a real character that had a great influence on auto design during that period
    They definitely didn't lack for talent
     
  25. hashiriya

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    What surprises me is that I've never had a chance to find a good book (with good visual material, obviously) about GM designs under Bill Mitchell, especially, during the 60s. I had to collect the data on the web...

    What I find the best about his designs of the time is that they are understandable!
    You may need to be a car enthusiast (nowadays, I mean) to appreciate 80s wedge coupes or 60s Mercedes, but Bill Mitchell's cars need no explanation. They speak for themselves.

    I've read that they've always started clay modeling in full scale and he never accepted that "additional explanation" in the sketches. Every sketch should have been either primal or final. I truly admire these hardcore rules for a design studio.
     

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