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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. jm2

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    Thanks!
    Very exciting project.
    The world is changing.
     
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    Not sure, but I believe so.
    It is European and relatively old.
     
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    What is the scale of the preliminary clay model? About 4:1?
     
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    varies by company, but usually 1/5 or 1/4. At school we have used 1/10.
     
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    Toyota/Calty Design FT-1 Concept development
     
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    ^^^ And then the bean-counters, management, and squeezing it into a Z4 wheel base killed it! RIP.
     
  9. jm2

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    In addition, the execution suffers in the ‘appearance’ department.
     
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    Attractive facelift for the new Range Rover Evoque
     
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    Now it just needs a heart transplant...the outgoing one is not very much fun to drive.
     
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  14. NeuroBeaker

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    That looks much better than the car they actually produced. o_O


    Looks great and the technology would be very helpful. I think they should have made it with a ~3.5 liter naturally aspirated V6 and it'd have been perfect. Hybrids and small-displacement forced induction engines are not attractive.

    All the best,
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    Were they also inspired by sport shoes? Those look miles better. Reminds me of one of these but on a far less attractive body.
     

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    I really like the look of the new Evoque, but you guys are discouraging me regarding its performance. I'll have to take one for a test drive.
     
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    Maybe I'm just pinning it in the wrong category. For size and engines, it actually seems somewhere in between a Ford Escape and a Ford Edge. If you want the better engines, you need to go one size up to the Range Rover Velar:

    Third Generation Ford Escape / Second Generation Ford Kuga:
    • Wheelbase: 105.9 in (2,690 mm)
    • Length: 178.1 in (4,524 mm)
    • Width: 72.4 in (1,838 mm)
    • Height: 67.0 in (1,702 mm)
    • Curb weight: 3,483–3,763 lb (1,580–1,707 kg) - FWD
    • Engines: 1.6 EcoBoost petrol, 2.0 EcoBoost petrol/diesel

    Second Generation Evoque:
    • Wheelbase: 105.6 in (2,681 mm)
    • Length: 172.1 in (4,371 mm)
    • Width: 78.6 in (1,996 mm)
    • Height: 64.9 in (1,649 mm)
    • Kerb weight: 3,940–4,310 lb (1,787–1,955 kg) - FWD/AWD
    • Engines: ~2 liter, I4, petrol/diesel

    Second Generation Ford Edge:
    • Wheelbase: 112.2 in (2,850 mm)
    • Length: 188.1 in (4,779 mm)
    • Width: 75.9 in (1,928 mm)
    • Height: 68.6 in (1,742 mm)
    • Curb weight: 3,912 lb (1,774 kg) - FWD
    • Curb weight: 4,060 lb (1,840 kg) - AWD
    • Engines: 2 liter I4 EcoBoost, 2.7 liter V6 EcoBoost Sport, 3.5 liter V6

    Range Rover Velar:
    • Wheelbase: 113.1 in (2,874 mm)
    • Length: 189.1 in (4,803 mm)
    • Width: 80.0 in (2,032 mm)
    • Height: 65.6 in (1,665 mm)
    • Kerb Weight: 3,977–4,319 lb (1,804–1,959 kg) - AWD
    • Engines: 2 liter I4 petrol/diesel, 3 liter V6 forced induction petrol/diesel, 5 liter supercharged V8

    Second Generation Range Rover Sport:
    • Wheelbase: 115.1 in (2,923.5 mm)
    • Length: 191 in (4,851.4 mm)
    • Width: 81.6 in (2,072.6 mm)
    • Height: 71.3 in (1,811.0 mm)
    • Kerb weight: 4,727 lb (2,144.1 kg) - AWD
    • Engines: 2 liter I4 petrol/diesel, 3 liter V6 petrol/diesel, 4.4 liter V8, 5 liter V8, 5 liter supercharged V8

    Fourth Generation Range Rover:
    • Wheelbase: 115.0 in (2,922 mm) / 122.9 in (3,122 mm) - Long wheelbase
    • Length: 196.8 in (4,999 mm) / 204.7 in (5,199 mm) - Long wheelbase
    • Width: 78.1 in (1,984 mm) (body) / 81.6 in (2,073 mm) (mirrors folded) / 87.4 in (2,220 mm) (mirrors extended)
    • Height: 72.2 in (1,835 mm)
    • Kerb weight: 4,762–5,203 lb (2,160–2,360 kg)
    • Engines: 2 liter I4 petrol, 3 liter V6, 5 liter V8 diesel, 4.4 liter V8

    With the better engine and slightly more space, the Velar looks like the better car:


    But it's very pricey. And, weirdly, although their design language seems the same, the Evoque looks like aesthetically pleasing than the Velar - though I can't really figure out why.

    All the best,
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    I almost bought the Velar. Wound up with the Alfa Stelvio. Yes, the Velar is pricey. I looked real hard at it, but was inlined to side with the Alfa.
    The design vocabulary of the Land Rover is appealing to my sense of style; clean and straightforward. The Alfa is a more overt and Italian.
    The Alfa has that fun to drive Italian DNA.
    Maybe when the Alfa lease is up.......
     
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    The past weekend at Retromobile , We just Image Unavailable, Please Login finished the restoration of the Lancia Zero a few weeks back .
     
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    Had the poster on my wall as a teen
     
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    we even made the hydraulic steering front hood opening system work like it was designed
     
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