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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. VigorousZX

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    I guess with this limited skill of copy and paste the majority of makes are going to be awful... the following site is filled with these, if members know of other dedicated sources please share. :)

    Unnecessary automobile nose swaps.
    https://www.facebook.com/CarsGetRuined/
     
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  2. jm2

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    interesting site
    If one is good, more are better?
    I have no issues with creativity and budding designers. Everyone has to start somewhere.
    It’s the ‘taste’ factor that I find intriguing.
    Like masterbation, if it makes you feel good, have at it.
    But I’m not so certain we all need to see it.
    Whatever happened to ‘judgement’ & ‘execution‘?
     
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  3. energy88

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    Looks like GMC is the universal "Go To" for front end swaps!:eek:
     
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  4. Jeff Kennedy

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    Sadly, way too many of the industry have forgotten those traits.
     
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  6. jm2

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  7. Jeff Kennedy

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    Pretty much proves how bad of taste Bordinat had.

    Based on the various other stories I have heard/read, to say that Bordinat had a "sixth sense" about the demise of Knudsen would be a bit soft. I hard it as he was part of the group that was actively working with Iacocca to to force his departure.

    When Knudsen went/was going to Ford he tried to get Chuck Jordan to join him. That would have really sent Bordinat and DeLarossa to the Fairlane's bar.
     
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  8. jm2

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    I was a clay modeler in the Ford Advanced Studio the Summer they fired Knudsen & Shinoda.
    Strange times for a newbie like myself. Didn’t know what to make of all the politics.
     
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  9. Jeff Kennedy

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    The story always being told at Art Center was that Ford politics were played as a blood sort. Somebody, may have been later on, claimed that no project got underway until some poor sap had been selected to be the designated fall guy if whatever it was went sideways. There was some interview with HFII where he remarked that he knew Bordinat was a butt kissing political creature but he tolerated him anyway.
     
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    Sounds about right
     
  11. Jeff Kennedy

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    Did you know Dick Hutting from school? I remember he came back to town after being hired at Ford and talked of seeing Bordinat's Mark IV or V in the "King Tut" theme. Dick just shook his head at how bad it was and that it was the head of all Ford Design that would think it was good.
     
  12. Peter Tabmow

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    The same behaviour has always bedevilled Ford's racing programmes – probably the most accurate aspect of Ford v. Ferrari!
     
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  13. jm2

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    Yes, i met him after I graduated.
    Talented designer.
    I went to Ford Design when I graduated from ACCD. Was in the International Studio.
    Was there several weeks, then quit, and went to GM. Long story.
     
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  14. Jeff Kennedy

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    He ended up with an incredibly sweet deal.

    Graduates from ACCD and hired by Ford into their executive development program. Some derided it as a fast run through every studio without staying anywhere long enough to do anything meaningful. At the end of it one was to become like an assistant studio manager with a gold star net to the name at review times.

    But, Dick was a California boy and had a girlfriend still back at ACCD. He bailed from Ford. Came back and not too long later their relationship broke up too (she would go on to marry a business instructor at school). Yet the saving situation for Dick was that his newly created design operation was made Ford's California studio in Valencia. [He had made some real good relationship during his short stay in Dearborn] This is in the earliest days of the So Cal car studios popping up.
     
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    Dick Hutting was one of my instructors. He had a very simple sketching technique, it was eye opening to see someone as successful as he was with such an unflashy technique. (It gave me hope for my future :p) His studio was known as "The Dick Hut"! (Which wasn't quite so obvious as we knew him as Richard)
     
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    When Dick graduated he was perfect for Ford at the time. He was doing good renderings but the underlying design was not always the best. I think he was also the one that selected his destination by the promise of most money the soonest. At that time, GM made one pay offer and said that if someone proved themselves worthy they would advance and be rewarded. For those that Ford wanted they passed out the better starting pay and management program which in something like 2 years was an assured grade level advancement. Chrysler also used starting pay.

    Did you also have Doug Halbert as an instructor? He, Mark Jordan and I all graduated together.
     
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    I never had Doug as an instructor but he was the one who hired me at Honda. It was an interesting interview (on campus before graduation). We must have hit it off pretty quickly as he was calling me *******, a name he still uses for me to this day, after he asked me a question that I thought was sarcastic. I would have thought it had gone poorly but they practically offered me a job in the interview, so I left hopeful.
     
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    Ford wanted Doug and offered the management program. Johnny Schwarz wanted him really, really badly for Chrysler. As I remember it GM had no ofers and wasn't that interested in him anyway. VW America had a small design operation just getting underway under Bill Maypole. Mark and I figured that Doug would do Ford and I was next in line for the VW offer. Doug surprised everyone and took the VW deal.

    I remember in the VW interview one of the questions was about dealing with politics. That was a shocking question, to me, as all any of us were focused on was a job getting to draw cars. Doug apparently did extremely well with VW and then wandered off to Honda.
     
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    By the way, Doug has been searching for a 328GTS, so maybe he will join us here soon.
     
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    this lithe little beauty is over on Bring a Trailer and I'm wondering if buying 1000 shares in Exxon would help me recoup-deville my investment in it...
     

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    Now, THAT'S very cool.
     
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    The fact that Cadillac is not wearing landau bars is a big plus! :D
     
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