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    Buick's Latest Car for China Shows How Far the Brand has Fallen in its Biggest Market
    The Envista is an ICE-powered crossover that can't stand out from the EVs Chinese consumers seem most excited about.
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    6/09/22 12:50PM







    The Buick Electra-X concept, of which the Envista bears a similarity.
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    Buick, much like Chrysler, is a brand I’m continually impressed is still with us. Unlike Chrysler, though, Buick has historically enjoyed strong success in China. After all, China kept buying Buicks when the brand was nothing but rebadged Chevys in North America. Yet as EVs and home-market brands have gained favor in China, Buick’s standing has slid. GM is hoping to recapture that enthusiasm with the Buick Envista — a gasoline-powered crossover revealed a week ago with a sloping roof that appears to borrows cues from the marque’s Electra-X concept.

    Images of the Envista were revealed in a filing by China’s Ministry of Industry and Information Technology, as first reported by Carscoops. It’s a step into a new era for Buick design, though perhaps not a very distinctive one, especially where the front is concerned. The slender, LED-accentuated daytime-running lights call to mind everything from the Lamborghini Urus to those ill-conceived, generic renderings of Dany Bahar-era Lotus.


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    Overall the Envista’s styling is a bit vague, an ultimate amalgamation of contemporary automotive design trends. Looking at the best-selling larger EVs in China, all from burgeoning startups, the Buick’s relentlessly generic styling isprobably intentional. GM and its joint-venture partner SAIC seem to be hoping an ICE-powered crossover can blend in with the fashionable electric set, even as China’s aspirational consumers have started to turn away from the three-shield brand.

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    Now we should note that Buick did enjoy a slight uptick in Chinese sales near the end of 2020, but GM has had little to say about how the brand is doing in that region since then. Besides, that was likely a blip in a larger trend over the past five years. From a 2019 New York Times story:

    In China, sales have been dropping ominously. In 2016 and 2017, Buick and its partner SAIC Motor of Shanghai sold about 1.23 million vehicles. Last year, sales fell to 1.06 million, and they are expected to finish under 900,000 this year. China’s auto market is rapidly slowing from recession to near-depression, analysts say.

    Besides headwinds from the trade war, the Chinese market faces oversaturation, said John Murphy, senior auto analyst for Bank of America Merrill Lynch, in his annual “Car Wars” industry outlook in June. He predicted a 7.5 percent sales drop this year.

    This report obviously hails from a pre-pandemic time when the global economy looked a little different than it does today, but things haven’t exactly improved for China’s auto market since. Just last month, Reuters reported car sales in China in May 2022 were roughly half of what they were at the same time last year.

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    Buick is running out of steam, and while that doesn’t mean it’s a hopeless cause in a market that once loved it, it does mean GM can’t afford to bide its time catching up. Buick has a couple of EVs on sale in China, in the form of the Velite 6 and Chevrolet Bolt-based Velite 7; comically, it also offers a car called the Verano Pro that my browser’s built-in translator manifests as “Veyron Pro.” GM’s plan is to seemingly throw five new Buick-badged EVs at car shoppers over the next three years, while it looks to reinvent the marque on this side of the Pacific with products like the Wildcat EV. I’ve lost count of how many Buick rebrandings we’re up to now.

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    I can appreciate that their engineering is superb, but I wouldn't say Pagani makes very pretty cars overall. There are some nice details like the way they design and finish braces or hinges, but the overall design and the interior aesthetics can come across as a little awkward or a little much.

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    And a little '69-'70 LeSabre in the outer front bumper edges? RHD for Mad Max Mopar!
     
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    Stylerama—Ford’s Answer to GM’s Motorama (Almost)
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    Stylerama, Ford’s Aborted Answer to GM’s Motorama
    By Jim and Cheryl Farrell

    In 1949, GM invited the world to see the latest in automobile technology and the best of its new cars at auto shows in New York and Detroit. Those shows were successful beyond anyone’s wildest expectations, with more than 300,000 people accepting GM’s invitation. That extravaganza, renamed the Motorama, was repeated in 1950 and it drew more than 320,000 guests. After missing two years for the Korean Conflict, the Motorama returned in 1953. In addition to New York City, the 1953 motorama traveled to Miami, Los Angeles, San Francisco, Dallas and Kansas City. Ford executives who attended the ‘53 Motorama were impressed with the public’s response to GM’s concept cars and they couldn’t help but notice that 1.5 million people joined them as guests of GM. By 1956, the Motorama shows, displays and concept cars were even more spectacular, and attendance rose to 2,348,241 people. Ford was trying to close in on industry sales leader Chevrolet by competing head-to-head in everything—and that meant that Ford started looking for an answer to GM’s Motorama.

    Ford’s answer came from John Cuccio. Before he was hired as a Ford designer, Cuccio spent 15 years as a designer for Raymond Loewy and Associates, where he learned something about showmanship. After Loewy lost the Studebaker account, Cuccio was assigned to design and supervise the building of a Loewy show car for the 1955 Paris Auto Show. While he was in Turin, Italy, supervising the building of the car, he received a telegram from Frank Hershey offering him a job as a designer at Ford and he was asked to come to Dearborn to meet with Hershey. When Cuccio returned to the US, he called the Ford Design Department to make an appointment, only to find out that Hershey was no longer at Ford and that George Walker was the new boss. Walker didn’t know anything about the telegram but agreed to meet with Cuccio and then hired him as a manager in Buzz Grisinger’s Mercury pre-production studio.

    After Cuccio settled in, he suggested that Ford design and build a dozen or so full-sized futuristic showcars, put them in specially-designed trailers and truck them across the United States and Canada. Like the one used to display the XM-Turnpike Cruiser, Cuccio suggested that each trailer be designed with sides that opened and with attached decks and awnings. Cuccio gave Walker several renderings that showed the trailers drawn up in a circle, covered wagon style, with people around them looking at Ford’s futuristic cars. Walker loved the idea, named it the Stylerama and recommended it to Henry Ford II as Ford’s answer to GM’s Motoramas. As soon as he heard the proposal, Henry Ford II became as enthusiastic about it as Walker. He asked for cost estimates, and ordered that the plan be implemented as soon as possible.

    Walker asked designer Bob Maguire to organize the program. In March 1956, Maguire stepped down as head of the Ford studio to organize a new Advanced Studio. Al Mueller was assigned to work with Maguire. Buzz Grisinger was also reassigned from the Mercury pre-production studio to Maguire’s studio to help with the Stylerama program. Instead of having two advanced studios, Alex Tremulis’ studio was done away with and he and Bill Balla, a designer in Tremulis’ studio, were assigned to Maguire’s new Advanced Studio to help with the Stylerama cars.

    The first thing Maguire did was to ask Tremulis and Balla to design several advanced cars. Maguire also asked that the other studios each come up with designs for two futuristic cars for a special show to be held in the Design Rotunda. To encourage the designers’ undivided attention to the task at hand, Maguire was given a small room downstairs in the Styling Center where designers selected from each studio were temporarily reassigned until their Stylerama proposals were finished.

    On April 3, 1956, a special show was held in the Design Rotunda to pick the cars to be built for the Stylerama program. Fourteen 3/8-sized models were chosen from the 22 designs submitted. Because the XM-Turnpike Cruiser had been built by Ghia from a 3/8-sized model, the plan was to send the selected 3/8-sized models to European coach builders, who would then build the full-sized Stylerama cars.

    John Cuccio and Walker’s administrative manager, V. Z. Brink, left on April 27, 1956, to visit coach builders in Italy and Germany. Their purpose was to evaluate facilities, get price and time estimates and assess security at each facility. The Mercury XM-Turnpike Cruiser, which had recently been built by Ghia, was used as the benchmark for cost, time and needed supervision.

    During the two weeks they were gone, Cuccio and Brink visited Ghia, Vignale, Boano, Bettone, Farina, and Touring in Italy, and Spahn and Dranz in Germany. On May 14, 1956, Cuccio and Brink returned to Dearborn. They submitted a ten-page report to Walker and Maguire. Cost estimates they received ranged from $15,000 to $45,000 for completed full-sized pushmobiles, and it was estimated that it would take four to six months to build each car.

    Ford Motor Co. decided to ask each Italian coach builder to build two or three inoperable cars—all they had to do was look real. The next step was to negotiate a fixed price, sign contracts, and then send the 3/8-sized models, full sized side-view renderings, and the needed hardware to Italy. Mario Boano was negotiating with Fiat to become head of their Advanced Studio, but he told Ford he would maintain his separate coach-building business if his firm was awarded a contract to build the show cars. The accompanying photographs are of the fourteen 3/8-sized models selected and the full-sized side-view renderings it was planned to send to the Italian coach builders selected to build the full-sized cars.

    Instead of shuttling someone between Dearborn to Italy to supervise construction, it was proposed that Cuccio, who had grown up in Sicily and spoke fluent Italian, move to Turin, where he would personally supervise the construction of the Stylerama cars. Cuccio found an apartment in Turin, and he and his family arranged to relocate there. Ford agreed to furnish Cuccio with a new Thunderbird and a new Ranch Wagon each year he was in Italy, and he had already ordered cars for his first year.

    After the full-sized Stylerama cars were finished and delivered to Dearborn, plans were to put two in each trailer, and send five of the trailers across the United States, while two cars and one trailer were to tour Canada. The Stylerama displays were to be set up on vacant lots, in stadiums, or any other places where the public could see the cars and the accompanying entertainment Ford planned to accompany the cars.

    Starting with the XM-Turnpike Cruiser, Ford concept cars generally bypassed dealers, who had come to feel that concept cars displayed at their dealerships tended to discourage rather than encourage prospective buyers. Dealers apparently felt that the features on Ford’s concept cars only encouraged the buying public to wait until those features were available on the cars they were selling.

    The departure date for the first Stylerama caravan was planned for early 1957, but it never happened. Although the program was an open secret at the Styling Center, no public announcement was ever made.

    Many assume the Stylerama program was canceled because of the Edsel disaster, but the answer is much more complicated than that. Although some executives at Ford had premonitions of the financial disaster that was about to befall the Edsel with losses exceeding $250 million, the Stylerama program was canceled because cost estimates for everything but the cars were too high. Some of the cars were also judged as a little too far out to be shown in middle America. As Joe Oros recalled, the program collapsed of its own weight and, by the time the Edsel was introduced, it was too late. Cancellation of the Stylerama program was a great disappointment to John Cuccio, who soon left Ford to open his own industrial design firm.

    Although some of the 3/8-sized models from the aborted Stylerama program were designed and made before the program started, and some were later shown as Ford show cars. Today, no one remembers Ford’s planned answer to GM’s Motorama. We can only imagine what the public’s reaction to Ford’s Stylerama would have been.

    Perhaps it was a good thing that the Stylerama was cancelled. It might have proven to be an embarrassment for Ford.—Gary

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    Didn't McLaren already do this.......better? (SwallowTail?)

    PS: that interior is beginning to look a bit Spyker-like?
     
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    I was thinking more "20,000 leagues under the sea". Captain Nemo.:rolleyes:
     
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    Maybe just as well they didn't....?:cool:
     
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    Love the guy on the right with the hammer......."just hit it harder, it's only plaster"
     
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    Man, has it been THAT long? Gettin’ old.
    Today, once again I was fortunate enough to have been a judge at the Eyes on Design show here in Metro Detroit.
    Judged on aesthetics and design, not points.
    All race cars this year, what a cool concept. Class I judged was Indy Roadsters from the ‘50’s. :eek:
    Out of my swim lane, but cool cars nonetheless.
    I’ll post photos later.
     
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    Here are some random shots from yesterday's Eyes on Design Concours. race car design was the theme. cars were judged on design not points.
    Some of the photos are not mine.
    The red Lancia F1 car won Rolling Sculpture Award.
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