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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. anunakki

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    Thankfully its much better than that.
     
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    IMHO, that "hood latch" (or whatever) on the side behind the top of the front wheel needs to go in the name of de-cluttering.

     
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    The 'bad accident' bodyside was never a favorite of mine on the F12/812. Always reminded me of a 'swayback horse'.
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    Id disagree
     
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    I'm not sure that 1994 Corvette tail lights are a good start, although I have nothing against 1994 Corvette tail lights. I'm OK with what Ferrari proposed, including the tail pipes.

     
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  9. jm2

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    Like we've said, everyone's a designer! :rolleyes:
     
  10. VigorousZX

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    Once you unmask the headlights from the black ribbon, the car does look cheap in some angles (including body parts). Tin foil hat on, I think Ferrari purposely downgraded this design from its full potential to keep buyers coming back for future releases like the sf90 vs the face-lift xx version. I see now the more fitting elegant headlight for the 12Cilindri is the J50 one off face. https://i.imgur.com/gWGUx21.jpeg
     
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    Interesting theory.

    Question for @jm2 : When you were in the industry and there were 3-4 serious finalists for the initial design release of a new model, did management ever consider the 2nd, 3rd, etc. place finishers for the "carryover" models in subsequent years?
     
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  12. jm2

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    In my 40 yrs at both FoMoCo + GM never.
    When we were doing the 2nd Gen CTS, there were 9 scale models, narrowed those down to 5 full size clays, then down to 3 then1. England, California, Advanced Studios & the Production Studio in the competition.
     
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    That roof looks ridiculous (I should say IMO, but I don't think it is necessary :D)
     
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    The facelift on the new Rolls.
     
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    6 of one, half dozen of the other. Change for change sake. No improvement or worsening to me
     
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    Musical chairs time once again at Ford Design.
    Anthony Lo leaves Ford
    By Guy Bird09 May 2024
    After just over three years at the helm, Ford’s chief design officer Anthony Lo is leaving the company

    Anthony Lo, is leaving his role as Ford’s chief design officer after just three years on May 14th 2024. The move has now been confirmed by Ford’s US press office and that the 59-year old veteran is on his way out at his own decision.

    Lo left Renault to land Ford’s top design job in early 2021 after Moray Callum retired, but remained based in Paris, France, rather than making a permanent move to Ford’s Michigan mothership in the US. Early exciting cars launched under his tenure included the 2022 Lincoln L100 and Star concept cars and the 2021 Ford Bronco and F-150 Lightning (but also the demise of the European Fiesta and Focus models).

    Last time CDN spoke to Lo at the People Awards in December 2023, he said he was commuting to Detroit more and more days per month. Maybe that distance became too much for both parties, perhaps personally and politically.

    Hong Kong-born Lo was educated at the Royal College of Art in London and after graduating enjoyed a stellar career. He started at Lotus in 1987, then moved to Audi in 1990 before joining Mercedes-Benz in 1993 as chief designer for its Japanese studio. In 2000 he became head of advanced design at Saab, creating the 2005 production 9-5 and superb 2001 9-X and 2006 Aero X concepts, before concentrating his time from 2004 at Saab’s then parent company General Motors Europe.

    There he imagined more mainstream products including the 2007 Opel GTC concept which led to the production 2008 Vauxhall Insignia, plus the 2007 Opel Flextreme and 2008 Opel Meriva concepts.

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    The Saab Aero X Concept

    In early 2010, Lo joined Renault Group as VP of exterior design, and under the guidance of global design chief Laurens van den Acker was then instrumental across the next decade for the complete overhaul of the production car range. He led the design of new versions of the Clio, Captur, Scenic and Espace (following highly innovative concepts that prefaced them).

    There’s no word on where Lo is going next, or indeed who will take over the top Ford creative job after him, but don’t bet against it being someone who is prepared to live and work out of Michigan, whether they are home-grown talent or imported.
     
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    Didn't have time to watch the video but did spool through to pause on the images. The top of the front looks pretty good but the bottom looks too pseudo-sports for a Rolls-Royce. That's the kind of dumb intake companies like Mansory mutilate cars with. Also, the uptick it gives doesn't line up with anything on the side profile so it looks aftermarket.

    I wonder if an aftermarket company might design a lower front modification to restore the lines. That'd be a strange turnabout. :D

    All the best,
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    He probably got tired of working with big, bulky, and square design directives.


     
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    “Bad accident sides .”:D I never liked this car’s design.
     
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  22. jm2

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    From IG today.
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    Amazing reveal of the Alpenglow HY4 in SPA ! The car looks Stratospheric ! It is 100% zero emission with a Hydrogen combustion engine. My best project so far with an incredible Alpine team ! When engineers meet designers ! The dream is now really real ;)

    Amazing shoot organized by @indiadelafressange and done by @studiominol the lead designer of this project himself.

    C U in Le Mans !!!!

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    I think this looks pretty cool.
     
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    Before we get too carried away with 21st Century Design hype and AI, lets turn back the Way-Back Machine by 104 years:

    What Happened When Mitchell Motor Car Company's Design Was Too Advanced

    Finding balance in the design eluded Mitchell


    There's an old saying in the automobile business: You never want to be too far behind styling trends, or too far ahead. Finding that sweet spot between styling that’s too conservative and too advanced is critical, and the Mitchell automobile is a good example of what can happen when a design is too far ahead of trends.

    In 1919 the Mitchell Motor Company of Racine, Wisconsin, was considered a veteran automaker. It had begun producing motorcars in 1903, one year after Rambler and the same year as Ford Motor Company. Mitchell was profitable, a picture of success and prosperity, yet five years later the company was out of business and its plant sold to another carmaker. It proved a cautionary tale for other automobile companies.

    While the company was profitable, it seems management might have been feeling over-confident because for ‘20 it was decided new Mitchells would feature unique styling touches to help them stand out.

    Sedans boasted unusual vee'd windshields, with a prominent forward-placed center post supporting angled side panes, and cowls featured a forward sweep on each side, very much in the style of expensive custom-built cars. The angle of the sweep didn’t match the angle of the windshield post, which gave the closed cars a slightly odd appearance. The biggest styling feature, one that was impossible to ignore, was a radiator that tilted back at a noticeable angle. Print advertisements bragged that "Future styling trends…" were "Forecasted by the new Mitchell design." Ads claimed, "These new Mitchell Sixes bring to motoring America its first accurate example of the coming style [and].... viewed from any angle–from inside or out - the effect is impressive."

    Looking at the 1920 Mitchells today it’s difficult to see any big styling problem. In fact, on Touring models the sweptback radiator adds to the sporty appeal, at least in my opinion. But on closed cars the different lines and angles of the split vee-d windshield post, cowl sweeps, and radiator shell offer too much visual conflict. Apparently, they must have seemed even more at odds with convention then because the ’20 models soon earned the nickname “The Drunken Mitchells.”

    Pundits love to poke fun, so "The Drunken Mitchell” sobriquet stuck. It’s easy to guess what happened next. Sales fell 36 percent, with the slump worsening in 1921 when a mere 2,162 cars were sold, this even after a hasty restyle. The ’22 model year was about the same. Then in 1923 Mitchell sales collapsed entirely and only about 100 cars were sold. The company had come to the end of the line. Despite a history going back more than 80 years, Mitchell was gone by the end of 1923.

    One company benefitted from Mitchell’s demise. In January 1924, the Nash Motors Company of Kenosha, needing more production capacity, acquired the Mitchell plant for $405,000.



     
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    Thanks, wasn't familiar with that story.
    Still trying to explain the Tesla Cybertruck.:rolleyes:
     
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    The kid says it matches the gables, the critter can't see & no excuse for dad ...!
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