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Discussion in 'Creative Arts' started by jm2, Oct 19, 2012.

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  1. NeuroBeaker

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    I thought pretty hard about that post and reviewed your posting history before offering it. I think you have a tendency towards confirmation bias and only give credence to an expert if they agree with you. We shall have to agree to disagree.

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  2. Jeff Kennedy

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    This raises an old conversation with the designer working on the 3rd generation Monte Carlo (1978?). In general car designers hated the 1973 redesign with the heavily sculpted fenders (some called it go for baroque). So, Kip Wasenko talked about the conflict inside the Design Studio wanting a far cleaner more refined approach while Chevrolet management would come back with how that baroque design sold 1 million units. Is it good design because it sold 1 million copies or did it sell that well despite questionable aesthetics?

    As for Jerry's comments about "hacks". Quite true that some designers are more quotable than others. But, being quotable does not make them a great designer. I would go so far as to say that there are some that are/have been darlings of the media where their accomplishments there far outshines the work coming out of their studios.
     
  3. anunakki

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    I have a long history of admitting when im wrong, so guess we will have to agree to disagree.
     
  4. Tenney

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    Really clean w/out spoiler(s) and flares, too. And yet Camaro guys seem to dig the '69? (hard to argue w/RS grille being at least a little cool, though)
     
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  5. Tenney

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  6. jm2

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    I can't tell you how many times I had that conversation about the 70.5 Camaro being wayyy superior design wise than the '69.
    I was always outvoted and informed that the '69 was the 'iconic' Camaro. EOC.:rolleyes:
     
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  7. NeuroBeaker

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    I'm likely prejudiced by films, but the 1977 is iconic. :)

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  8. Tenney

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    Just had it yesterday! And deployed a variant of Jeff's buying-for-other-attributes take, in that the COPO and ZL-1 factor may add some beauty to the '69 - and kinda had 'em for sec. And then one of 'em said he preferred the '74 Firebird nose to the '70-'73, because it didn't spoil the look of the front end as other railroad tie bumpers of the era had on other cars. So I mentioned thinking the '67-'68 Camaro design was cleaner than the '69 - giving back any COPO/ZL-1 gains there may have been - and yet preferred the '69 Firebird to the '67-'68 versions mostly due to the nose. All the cars were there. It was 100 degrees out.

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  9. energy88

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    Gentlemen! Time to argue about headlights.

    While out shopping today, this new fangled Ford pickup truck parked in front of me.

    IMHO, the headlight area design has gone from bad to tacky! Did the lightening designers run out of budget before they completed their assignment? :eek: That unused body real estate in the grill sticks out like a sore thumb!

     
  10. NeuroBeaker

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    There was a time when the entire front end of vehicles wasn't just all grill and lights. I kinda like that you can tell what color it is from the front.

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    This "family" will always represent the zenith of more body in the grill styling:

     
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  12. Jeff Kennedy

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    Sometimes trying to be different and unique get disconnected from good design. I might add that trying so hard to utilize new technology leads to solutions that are about playing up that new attribute to the detriment of having a cohesiveness.

    As for this Ford nose, I think they should have looked at more variations as it isn't bad but could have been done better.
     
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    I love creating concepts that really function and work. We started the “LFG” with Tuthill at the end of last year working with him and his team daily digitally. This is the result of 8 months work. Enjoy the sounds!

     
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    Very cool!
     
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    I believe these Pagani Huayra replica builders used clay and some kind of sprayed hardener (cement?) to create a custom windshield mold. Someone rich should commission them to built their own dream design.
    A quick preview can be seen at the 1:43:00 time mark
    youtu.be/HgruECpcxRk?t=6179
     
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    My guess is while these look good in videos, in person the kit car nature will be unbearably obvious.
     
  17. VigorousZX

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    Often the proportions are wrong due to donor restraints or the surfacing is just awful when light reflects off the car body but these guy did a decent job without the aid of a CNC machine which would have made it perfect in a short time.
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  20. NeuroBeaker

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    Yeah... uh oh.

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  21. jm2

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    I was wondering how long it would be before someone pointed that out!:rolleyes:
    Interestingly, the Chief Designer at Audi was formerly at JLR. Coincidence?
     
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    Interesting that they still kept Audi flavor to it. I can tell thats an Audi. I dont mind it at all.
     
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  24. 330 4HL

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    I can see that; a little TT with a dash of R8....
     
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