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Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Bullfighter, Apr 14, 2007.

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  1. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Jan 26, 2005
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    Jon
    #1 Bullfighter, Apr 14, 2007
    Just got back from the Bella Italia show in San Diego - 120 cars, on the waterfront, great time, etc.

    In the concours, the winner for the 308/328/Mondial category ended up being: a 288 GTO.

    No surprise - it's an incredible car and definitely higher up the food chain than the fleet of mint red 328s and even the stunning red '76 308 that was entered, and (I hate to admit it, but facts are facts) my 328.

    But the more I thought about it, what's the point in detailing and buffing up a bunch of regular production 308/328s when you could have 288 GTOs and F40s competing in the same category? How much wax does a 308 GTSi require to beat an F40 in a concours? (Are there enough bees on the planet?)

    I've only entered my car in a couple of these, and last time the 288 GTOs and F40s were in their own category. So - is there a standard approach to this or is it just whatever the event organizers come up with?
     
  2. RMDC

    RMDC Formula 3

    May 15, 2005
    1,005
    Boston, North Shore
    #2 RMDC, Apr 14, 2007
    I experienced the same thing when you are judged at non-club events. We have a local show called Tutto Italiano and the class awards differ greatly from the FCA classes. My only experience with FCA has been at the FCA New England Regional Concorso held each year in Hartford CT. My 308 GTB took Silver 2 years in a row. The awards in each class are 1 silver, 1 gold and unlimited platinum. Silver 85 - 89.5, Gold 90-94.5, Platinum 95-100

    The judged clases are: (and you're probably going to scratch your head on a few of these)

    Class 1 - 308/Mondial
    Class 2 - 328/360
    Class 3 - 348/355
    Class 4 - Testarossa/512TR/Boxer
    Class 5 - 400/400i/412/456/550/575
    Class 6 - 330/365
    Class 7 - 250/275
    Class 8 - Dino
    Class 9 - Pre 1973 Competition
    Major Awards - Best of Show, Exceptional Merit, ad infinitum

    I would hope that the Regional Classes would all be the same and would match up to the Nationals, but not sure. My only experience has been with FCS NER as a registrant with a car to be judged ( you can also elect "for display only")

    Anybody else care to chime in - curious if this matches up to the other regionals and the National FCA Concorso
     
  3. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #3 Bullfighter, Apr 14, 2007
    I'm scratching my head on Class 2.

    Where do the 288 GTO/F40/F50/Enzo fit in?

    I was also astonished that someone took second, today at FOC, in the modern V12 category for a 599. How could a 599 be anything other than perfect car right now?! What's the friggin' point?!! So you drove it 22 miles without a full restoration... LOL.

    Some stunning 512TRs and 550/575s got passed up there.
     
  4. RMDC

    RMDC Formula 3

    May 15, 2005
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    Boston, North Shore
    #4 RMDC, Apr 14, 2007
    Class 2 - figured that - just took it out of the latest FCA/NER magazine
    288GTO - so rare there isn't a class? Major award category maybe
    599 award - there is a cut-off year for FCA judging , 2004?...not sure

    This may be a little more to your liking:
    www.ferrariclubofamerica.org
    Click on events, then Concorso to see guidelines for judging and look at the 2006 results - noticed that the classes did not match the NER regional event.

    Looks like the Classes are all over the place - Maybe FOC does better.
     
  5. shill288

    shill288 Formula Junior

    Feb 24, 2005
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    #5 shill288, Apr 14, 2007
    Here are the FCA Annual Meet classes. FCA and Cavallino Classic events use the IAC/PFA (International Advisory Council for the Preservation of Ferrari Automobiles) guidelines. Parker Hall is the Chairman.

    Class 1: 125/166/195/212/225
    Class 2: 250/340/342/375 Pre 1956
    Class 3: 250 GT Open 1956 - 1963
    Class 4: 250 GT Closed 1956 - 1964
    Class 5: 275 GTB/GTB4/GTB4S
    Class 6: 275 GTS/330 GTC(S)/365 GTC(S)
    Class 7: 365 GTB4/GTB4 Spyder/GTC4
    Class 8: 250 GTE/330 America/330 GT2+2/365 GT(4) 2+2
    Class 9: 400/410/500 SuperAmerica/Superfast & 365 California
    Class 10: 206 & 246 GT/GTS

    Class 11: 308 GTB/GTS
    Class 12: 308 GTBi(QV)/GTSi(QV)
    Class 13: 328 GTB/GTS
    Class 14: 348 tb/ts/Spider
    Class 15: F355 Berlinetta/GTS/Spider
    Class 16: 365 GT4BB/512BB(i)/550
    Class 17: Testarossa/512TR/F512M
    Class 18: GTO/F40/F50
    Class 19: 308 GT4/Mondial
    Class 20: 400 GT(i)/412/456

    Class 21: Early Racing - Pre 1962
    Class 22: Front Engine Racing - 1962 and later
    Class 23: Mid-Engine Racing - 1962 and later
    Class 24: Formula 1/Prototype (F1, 206SP, 312P, 330P, 333SP, etc.)

    Display Only Classes:

    Class 25: Contemporary Production 2000 - Present
    Class 26: Modified Touring - (Spyder conversions, etc.)
    Class 27: Modified Racing - (Modified w/o factory support or endorsements)

    Obviously, a regional event will not have this many classes, heck, it may not have this many cars, so the classes must be combined. In theory, it shouldn't matter whether you have a 328 or GTO. All cars are supposed to start with 100 points and the Judges start deducting from there. High point wins. Of course, human nature being what it is, subjectivity will creep in.

    Steve
     

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