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Carbed lp5000s or a F/I QV

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  1. Bradjohnston

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    Anyone spend considerable time in both? Drawbacks and advantages to either? Any info greatly appreciated.
     
  2. ken qv

    ken qv Formula 3

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    Two of my best friends have FI Qv cars so i have spent a lot of time in those. They have both had a lot of good luck with their ownership and not much maintenance cost. The few things that have gone wrong have been predictable and low cost (tires, oil, plugs, ignition system, brake pads). One is a 88 and the other is 88.5. Can't answer to 5000S. I think at this point, any carbed car is going to cost you more, but will go up in value at a slightly higher rate also. If i were in the market right now myself, i would probably be looking for a good FI qv but a 2v carb car is a better investment imo if you plan to sell one day. Good luck with your search... it's part of the fun and part of the headache.
     
  3. ralfabco

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    When compared to the F.I. car, the version with the carbs, has more potential to increase in price. They reliability is similar. Neither car will be reliable, if it is not mechanically set correctly and it sits in the garage.
     
  4. Albert-LP

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    the more these cars are originals, the more is their value: Countach was born as a carbed car, intake sound is one hundred times better for the carbed, so do not buy a FI. But this is for european customers. USA market is different, may be a FI car is not a bad idea, as it is easier to tune.

    5000S is a very good car and very rare: QV production numbers are twice than 5000S.

    5000S has twice low/mid rpm thrust than 400/400S.

    go 5000S, go! ;-)

    ciao
     
  5. blown daytona

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    When I was looking, I was only interested in a QV (FI or DD). I wanted the most power and refinments. I looked alittle at anniversary's, but didnt care for the look. I was willing to pay for a nice DD, but at the time none were available except at stupid prices. I ended up with a FI car, and glad I got it. :)
     
  6. maxdaddy

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    Fuel injection tech in the 80's is low. Done for epa reasons. You are not avoiding problems going the fuel injection route. There is a sound difference. Go with carbs if it's in your budget. It will be easier to sell down the road. Whatever your choice, your in a nice position in life to contemplate something like this.Good luck.
     
  7. blown daytona

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    Fuel injection used on the QV was the Bosch K-jetronic. Same sytem used by Benz, BMW, VW, Porsche, Audi. Very dependable and you can get parts anywhere. It is a big premium for a set of carbs. Ditto on your situation.....contemplating the purchase of a Countach :)
     
  8. vaholtorf

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    IMO your decision depends on what you are going to do with the car.

    If you are going to park the car as an investment, 5000S.

    If you want to drive it a lot, go with FI. Nothing primitive about Bosche K Jetronic, a was mentioned earlier, same as used on all Mercedes, Benz, etc. and easy and cheap to maintain, will stay in tune, and it will probably never need repaired. Lower maintenance, more reliable, but most importantly, you have almost 100 more horsepower with a QV! You give up the gool looks of the carbs, and a little investment upside, but if I was wanting to drive a lot, I'd go with the QV. Oh, and fuelie QV less expensive too!
     
  9. joe sackey

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    Exactly.

    It also all depends on what the use of the car is likely to be, what resource you have nearby for tuning (local specialist), and what budget you have for maintenance. Those factors should guide you accordingly. It really all comes down to a combination of budget and particular cars available at the time you are looking.
     
  10. ElvisNasty

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    I have been in both.

    The carbed car is awesome. I was in a carbed car, the carbs had not been tuned or touched in years, and it ran great. Started up great, didn't overheat, didn't leak, didn't sputter, didn't have a flat spot, it just ran great.

    The FI is also awesome. For some reason a bunch of internet posters yap that it's "crap bosch stuff" or "low tech" or "primitive" or whatever. But in reality, these cars run great. K-Jet was the best of the best at the time. You're buying an old car. You can't expect computer-regulated modern anything, the best you can hope for is the best of that era. The K-Jet stuff is low/no maintenance even decades later.The cars are fast and fun, and with a sport exhaust there is a great sound.

    You can't go wrong with either one.
     
  11. Bradjohnston

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    Thanks for all the info!
     
  12. gurslo

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    Brad, now the big question....which way are you leaning?? S or QV?

    I have FI Anniversary, people here on the forums luv to bash and talk that car down. Not once have I glanced into the garage or gone for a ride and had a fraction of an ounce of regret. Look at a few C/Ts, invest in airline travel and hotel rooms and when you come across the car that jumps out at you and moves you, that's probably the one.

    Best of luck.
     
  13. Bradjohnston

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    Going to go for a Fuel Injected version!
     
  14. ralfabco

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    Brad,

    Weber carburators :) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  15. joe sackey

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    Either way, congratulations on going for a Countach! Post pics when you can.
     
  16. blown daytona

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    Brad, most people in this world wish they had your kind of problems......Which type of Countach should I buy :) Good luck with your search!!!
     
  17. gurslo

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    I do wonder if my FI will be a poor investment, vs a carbed. What I was immediately drawn to with my car was its condition. It was (and still is) flawless. Had very low klms., and restoration done to the mechanicals. I luv the C/T and am happy to be able to be one of the worlds owners.

    The way I see it, a good C/T is a good C/T.

    Out in the wild, people don't say, "OMG! a C/T. Oh, its a FI."

    During a recent Make A Wish event, I turned 1900 extremely exciting klms.
     
  18. Nonsense. You have money in the bank. While carbs are truly glorious, a fuel injected car is a wonderful machine. My right foot knows this. John Kennedy said "a rising tide raises all ships".
     
  19. Albert-LP

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    +1

    ciao
     
  20. gurslo

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    I appreciate your words,
    Thanks
     

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