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Carfax shows Odometer Error and Accident on this 328, would you buy?

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  1. Jeff M5 KNinja

    Jun 16, 2007
    8
    From Autotrader:

    1986 Ferrari 328 GTS GTS

    Lamborghini Ohio

    Price

    $36,980
    Body Style Convertible
    Mileage 42,015
    Exterior Color Taupe
    Interior Color Mocha

    VIN ZFFXA20A7G0061633

    15769 Watkins Road
    Marysville, OH 43040




    From Carfax (sorry got butchered):

    A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 4 billion vehicle history events and found 20 record(s) for this 1986 FERRARI 328 GTS (ZFFXA20A7G0061633).
    Date: Mileage: Source: Comments:
    04/16/1992 73,000 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    06/23/1994 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Failed emissions inspection
    06/29/1994 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Failed emissions inspection
    07/01/1994 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Failed emissions inspection
    Passed emissions inspection
    03/31/1995 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    03/31/1995 93,500 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #50327552 Odometer reading reported for title
    or registration
    04/04/1995 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #50327552 Title issued or updated
    07/26/1995 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    06/14/1996 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    05/27/1997 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    04/17/1998 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    04/21/1998 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #50327552 Title issued or updated
    06/11/1999 Florida
    Inspection Station
    Fort Lauderdale, FL Passed emissions inspection
    07/03/2000 Florida
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Fort Lauderdale, FL
    Title #0050327552 Title issued or updated
    Exempt from odometer reporting


    11/17/2000 Florida
    Police Report
    Case #544546070 Accident Reported
    Involving a front impact
    with a parked car


    02/18/2003 29,481 Auto Auction Sold at auction
    in Southeast Region
    Listed as
    a dealer vehicle
    INCONSISTENT ODOMETER READING


    07/11/2003 New Jersey
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    East Rutherford, NJ
    Title #WL20031920206 Title issued or updated
    New owner reported
    12/22/2006 41,901 New Jersey
    Motor Vehicle Dept.
    Princeton, NJ
    Title #BB20063560347 Title issued or updated
    New owner reported
    05/31/2007 42,011 Auto Auction Sold at auction
    in Pennsylvania
    Listed as
    a dealer vehicle
    06/07/2007 Dealer Inventory
    Marysville, OH Vehicle offered for sale




    Pictures look great (interior looks a little beat up). Any insight on what happened to this car?
     
  2. rtking

    rtking Formula Junior

    Mar 5, 2006
    703
    Huntington Beach, CA
    Full Name:
    Bob King
    Maybe it's 142K miles? I think the odometer must have rolled over and that's what led to the inconsistent reading.

    As for the accident - that would be of concern. Certainly the car would have to be inspected to be sure that the repairs were done well and to determine if the frame was damaged at all.

    $36K seems pretty spendy for a 146K mile car. I would be a bit concerned about mileage, would want a compression and leak down test performed, suspension (bushings, shocks) inspected, etc.

    I wonder what the dealership would do if you presented the Carfax to them and told them they have a 146K miles 328?

    Bob
     
  3. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

    Feb 3, 2006
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    Offer 22000 or run...
     
  4. MJT328GTS

    MJT328GTS Formula Junior

    Mar 30, 2005
    374
    St. Louis
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    MJT
    Another questionable Florida car. Not good. Probably a rental car that's been through the ringer. Usally those have issues with accidents and inaccurate odometer readings before they are brought up north for private sale.

    I'd avoid this car and keep looking for something else.
     
  5. jsumnertx

    jsumnertx Karting

    Dec 9, 2004
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    Austin
    I can't believe a dealer wouldn't bother to run a Carfax check on a car they bought.
     
  6. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

    Feb 3, 2006
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    Its on you, not the dealer, to do your homework... Or Caveat Emptor...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveat_emptor
     
  7. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I agree. Florida apparently doesn't issue salvage title, so you don't know how much damage was done. And the odometer appears to be a crapshoot.

    I can think of better ways to spend $37K.

    Sport Auto has a beautiful '88 with 17K miles on it, asking $50K. It's a desirable color, documented would probably save you a lot of heartache.
     
  8. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

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  9. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
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    You already know the answer thats why you're asking here in the hopes that someone will tell you not to worry and change the answer.

    After reviewing the above, would I buy it?
    NOPE.
     
  10. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Run forest run !!
     
  11. Jeff M5 KNinja

    Jun 16, 2007
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  12. Jeff M5 KNinja

    Jun 16, 2007
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    You got me Dave, did I just 'bust a newb' on you guys? Sorry. Hopefully I'll become a lot more acquainted with this board.
     
  13. dstacy

    dstacy F1 World Champ
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    Don't be sorry. On occasion I'll ask questions here just so someone else will conifrm what I already knew.
     
  14. blmjumper

    blmjumper Formula Junior

    Jun 18, 2006
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    I'd r-u-n-n-o-f-t!!!
     
  15. dakharris

    dakharris Two Time F1 World Champ

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    A taupe/mocha '86 for $37K? I wouldn't have made it past those figures before I turned the page. If you buy this as your first Ferrari, it will be your last for one of two reasons: 1. No one will ever buy this car from you. 2. You will be so mad at the marque after your inevitably horrible experience that you will never want another.
     
  16. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    True, if this car was a pristine, time capsule with 15K miles on it it would still be sale-proof in that color.
     
  17. irondogmike

    irondogmike F1 Rookie

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    I called on saturaday and talked to a salesman there named harvey ford about the taupe color 328, he says it will need about 2k in minor repairs, lights..oil flushes,and etc.........., but what bothered me is he has several years of reciepts and not showing a belt or major service done but the seats have been redyed, he never said anything that was menitioned on the carfax that you showed which I belive when its time for me to buy a carfax will be in my hand when I purchase a car, oh also he says hes firm on the price
     
  18. lizard1

    lizard1 Formula Junior

    Dec 8, 2004
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    i agree their are better 328s with less of a questionable history that you should consider. so you buy it for $36-37 but then have to spend, not $2000, but closer to $5-7K to get it "up-to-date". now you're in the low-mid 40's. i'd just go ahead and spend that on a car that has everything done and possibly a better color. but if the color suits you, then consider the car and bargain hard

    BTW, the wheels are great looking. normally i think all aftermarket or different MY wheels just don't fit on the 328 but those look great. anyone know which ones they are?
     
  19. blmjumper

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  20. BLUROAD

    BLUROAD F1 Veteran

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    Last spring there was an 86 same color 12,000 miles in New York. Buy it now was 42,000 I offered 33k No sale...
     
  21. jsumnertx

    jsumnertx Karting

    Dec 9, 2004
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    I wonder how they'd explain away the Carfax report...

    "Vehicle Comments
    All of our vehicles are thoroughly inspected and receive a 36-point Highline inspection from our expert technicians! In addition, each vehicle offered has a CARFAX data sheet provided."
     
  22. irondogmike

    irondogmike F1 Rookie

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    very good point, I've should said that If I was still interested but not know, so the search shill go on,
     
  23. irondogmike

    irondogmike F1 Rookie

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    or maybe they should have a 37 point inpection which would include the carfax
     
  24. Jeff M5 KNinja

    Jun 16, 2007
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    Mike, what is your search order? Cars.com, Autotrader, Ebay, FerrariAds...
    Am I missing anything?
     
  25. Bullfighter

    Bullfighter Two Time F1 World Champ
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    What did it sell for? (or did it sell?)
     

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