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  1. F1tommy

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    #51 F1tommy, Jul 8, 2010
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    Nice old thread. Should try to update. The Chinetti car you are looking for is from 1953 not 1954. I will look for you.


    We are having a special model theme in the Ferrari Expo 2011 model contest for Carrera Pan America cars next year. I am building 2 BBR Ferrari kits and 1 BBR Porsche kit for the event.
     
  2. Toninyapas

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    You're right, that was IV Panamericana, in 1953. The car ran the 1954 edition too, but that's another history.

    There's a couple of 1/43 models of this car:

    Top Model:
    http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/7083/topmodelk.jpg
    http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/6105/sinttulo1lsu.jpg

    MG_Model:
    http://www.carmodel.net/zoomPage.php?NDMyODk8Oj4wPDo+YWRkVG9DYXJ0KCdUVWN0VFU5RVJVdzhPejVRVWtRdExXRnNiQzB3TFRNd0xUSXRNUT09JywnJywgJycsICcnLCcnLCAnYWRkLTEtNDMyODknLCAnMCcp

    But in my oppinion the first brand to make the model improvised a lot when drawing these badges - they made the lateral ones oval, and they were clearly not - and the other brand copied them.
     
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    #54 F1tommy, Jul 8, 2010
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    I still cant figure it out. I have a few more pictures of the car but you just can't tell. Maybe its an autoclub sticker. I found another car with a similar type sticker from 1953, but not the same and it was an autoclub. The 1/43rd decals are very undetailed, so they did not know either. Maybe this thread should be in vintage section.
     
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    #55 F1tommy, Jul 9, 2010
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    Sportscar Club Of America sticker.

    Thank you.

    We need more Carrera Pan Americana photos!!!




    If you want to see some nice handbuilt models from the Carrera Pan Americana, come and see the Expo model contest next year. The model quality at this show is very high.
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    #56 Toninyapas, Jul 9, 2010
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    Yes, I had arrived to the same conclusion, although I though the letters background was silver, I'll have to correct this. For the left one (right in the picture) I've drawn an ANA logo, which looks rather like the one in the picture. The other two are just fantasy, but "si non è vero è ben trobato", like Italians say...
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  11. Toninyapas

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    Thanks, Boudewijn! I'm afraid I didn't get even close...
    Anyone can read the letters in the steering wheel shaped logo? ASACO? USACO?
     
  12. Toninyapas

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    The one under the Sports Car Club of America looks like a steering wheel with three circles one besides the other, each one with a number inside, 4 - 2 - 1 I would say. Does it say anything to anyone?
     
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    #63 Toninyapas, Jul 12, 2010
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    Well, it wasn't 4 2 1 but A C I (Automobile Club d'Italia).

    Now, the one to the right side of the car. Round in shape, divided diagonally in two colours, a very light one (white or yellow) and a dark one, with a small object - a car's shape? in the lower part. Any ideas?
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    #64 Toninyapas, Jul 12, 2010
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    Maybe this one? It belongs to the Le Mans 24 hours Auto Club, and having into account that Chinetti had won several times tthat race before 1953, he was probably member of the Club.
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    #66 F1tommy, Jul 22, 2010
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    Francis Muller, also know as Giotto on Ferrarichat found your right side logo. Here is the photo. It is the Association Generale Automobile des Pilotes Independents(AGACI), a French club from Paris. Chinetti after all was an automobile distributor and driver in France for several years before coming to America, so that makes sense.
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    THANK YOU, Francis and Tom!!!
     
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    #68 Toninyapas, Jul 23, 2010
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    Thanks to you all, this model has been possible. It's not me who has done it, but Carlos Duran, from Sevilla, Spain, I've just made the decals.
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    Looks nice. What scale is that, 1/32nd?? How much would is cost to have some made up in 1/24th scale?
     
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    #70 Toninyapas, Jul 23, 2010
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    Yes, it's a 1/32 scale slot car. Since these decals are custom made, I must ask for Carlos permission for printing them for third parties, but in this particular case, having into account your help in the research process, I'm sure he'll grant it.
    The price for 1/24 would be 10€ + 5€ of shipping fees. Shipping fees are the same for any quantity of decals, so you can have a look to my webpage to see if there's any other ones you could be interested in: www.artecnodecals.com
    Most prices are for 1/32 scale, but all of them they can be re-scaled.
     
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    #71 F1tommy, Jul 29, 2010
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    Thank you. I want to order one sheet of this car in 1/24th scale if he says its ok.
     
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    Tom, I've asked him and he says it's OK. I think we should arrange the details by PM.
     
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  24. TCJ1965

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    Hello All!

    Does anyone out there have/know where there is a picture of Car #4 in race markings from the 1954 race? I have seen pics of the car post race but nothing taken during the race. I believe the car was:

    Ferrari 375MM #4 Drivers- Bonomi/Peyloubet (sn #0358AM)

    I believe this same car raced in the 1953 race driven by Maglioli as car #12 so hopefully someone out there took a picture of it at the 1954 event.

    Thanks
    Terry Jones
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