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Carrozzeria VIGNALE - Ferraris bodied by Vignale

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by Marcel Massini, Dec 14, 2008.

  1. ColdWater

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    Yes indeed. Seems a little surprising that Roelofs, who I understand restored the car, did not get this rather noticeable feature correct.

    Sorry, two posts above I meant 0179EL.
     
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  3. Aardy

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    s/n 0271EU in 1953...
     
  4. Ed Niles

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    Re: post no. 450, that looks like 069S, a 166 Vignale, that was once in SoCal. I have a clipping from some British or European mag showing the car from the same angle, and the only difference I can detect is the driving lights, which of course are easily removed. Ad had a fax no. in Zimbabwe (!) Someone out there will know more.
     
  5. Aardy

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    Hi Ed,

    see the whole thread about this car here :

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70840&highlight=find+1954+Vignale+coupe

    Of course, 0069/S was one of the possibilities among others...
     
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    Can someone help in identifying this car? the only and not very good picture from venezuelan newspapers of August 1956, driver Hans Egger.
    Thanks
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    Here comes a better, retouched version of this photo.

    Ciao!
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  9. 500tr

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    the first one seems to be better...
     
  10. wbaeumer

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    If you think so....

    Ciao!
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  11. Aardy

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    All details make me think to Vignale coupe s/n 0237EU but I don't have history for this car in South America. Very strange...
     
  12. 911mike

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    I know Arnold Stubb's daughter, Beth, and she is having her 50th birthday celebration this weekend. Anyone have photos of Arnold with cars and Phil? She is very proud of her father and I thought it would be cool to surprize her with memorabilia.
     
  13. KenGoldman

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    Why is it, that many of the bumpers were taken off of the
    early cars??

    Ken Goldman
     
  14. Jeff Kennedy

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    Without the bumpers the lines of the car are more pure. Rarely were the bumpers really integrated as a prime element of the forms instead being styled appendages. I suspect that there was also a notion that no bumpers made the car more "racy" too.

    Jeff
     
  15. VIZSLA

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    Its an easy way to remove weight from the places that will have the biggest effect on the polar motion of inertia as well.
     
  16. f308jack

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    A lot of these cars were supplied with copious amounts of chrome, which to the more modern tastes were spoiling the basic body-designs; a lot of people think they look better without it, more 'racy'.
    30 years ago I went after the omitted chrome of 0334MM; found it, beadings in one place, bumpers in another, the owner of the bumpers wanting an exhorbitant price for yet to restore items,, so they all stayed where they were.
     
  17. modena1_2003

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    Can anybody shine some light on a what I believe was a Vignale 212 Export (red and black livery) at a car show at Padre Pio church in PA a few years back?
     
  18. kare

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    In case of Vignale the bumpers were primary design elements and removing them really change the car into worse. Most of the bumpers were removed in the 80's when old cars as they used to be weren't really popular. Hot rodding them was a desperate attempt to make them look more sexy by the standards of that time. I am not in a position to judge whether people with mousse in their hair and pads on their shoulders thought they looked better, but on the other hands it does not make much difference any more.

    I sometimes enjoy watching pics taken in those days, until my eyes start to hurt.
     
  19. Tom Roland

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    Not many Vignale coupés had only 2 portholes. One, raced by Cornachhia at the Coppa Intereuropa 1953 (and elsewhere) is a possibility. You are aware of the link Cornacchia-Venezuela! The coupé was registered MI 211300, a number reported by the PRA file as "0237EU". But this ID seems too late for a 1952 car, then probably a re-stamp... on what?
     
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  22. 360gtracer

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    Original printing of Massini's "Ferrari by Vignale" was 1993 (or thereabout), not 1983. In 1989/1990, I was still corresponding w/ him re: my Dad's old car (0313EU - threads exist here...) for his book. I don't know when a softcover version was printed....

    FWIW.

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  23. KenGoldman

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    #498 KenGoldman, Mar 22, 2011
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    Here is S/N 267 from the RM Auction at Amelia in March 2011.
    From the Nicklin collection. Very tired--has not been out in many years.
    A huge restoration job awaits.
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  25. KenGoldman

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    #500 KenGoldman, Mar 22, 2011
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    Last photo here.

    Sad---what has happened during years of neglect.

    Hopefully, we will see it in better shape in the not too distant future.

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