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Cars being impounded because of out of state plates

Discussion in 'California (Southern)' started by 1monza, Sep 7, 2019.

  1. 1monza

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    During the Monterey weekend this year. A friend of mine, a resident from Oregon driving a Porsche with Oregon plates was pulled over by the CHP. They told him they were pulling over cars with out of state plates. Supposedly several Lamborghinis' and McLarens were impounded being accused of CA state tax evasion. They were accused of registering cars out of state to avoid paying the CA registration fees and taxes. Anybody else hear this and have more info?
     
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  3. jlonmark

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    Sounds about right! Honestly, there is nothing this state won't do. Get dealer plates and call it a day! While it's still legal
     
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  4. RonH

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    At a cars and coffee on the Labor Day weekend I saw a guy with a 330 cab with Montana plates. I did not detect any road grime on his car given his very recent grueling drive from Montana! It was all shiny and pretty.

    Everybody knows the Montana sales tax/registration fee scam. I am sure California cops know it too. So I would think a rare car with Montana plates would be like catnip to cats for them.

    Also, there is the insurance issue. Is the owner insuring the car as located in Montana? If he is and has an accident, you know that the insurance company will be looking for an out, especially on a multi million dollar claim if the car is a total loss. If he is telling the insurance company the truth about the location, that is exhibit A in his fight with the great State of California when they seize the car.

    I don't think I would be making such a gamble with a multi million dollar car.
     
  5. jlonmark

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    Out of state car is ok with: out of state driver's license, address, insurance, plates and hopefully a state not too far away as you clearly commute!
     
  6. EastMemphis

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    Insurance companies, at least USAA, don't care where the car is registered. The car is insured and they know all the details already.

    I've used Montana registration for things before, things that aren't obvious and overt and never had an issue. For my 360, I'm paying the sales tax and registering it in Tennessee. No sense sticking it in their eye.
     
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  8. SoCal1

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    Call it what you want, if it's registered legit and you have residence or a business in that state your good

    I have cars registered on both coasts, sometimes the cars are on reversed coasts.

    Never seen a law out of state plates are illegal except maybe down south for Calli plates LOL
     
  9. RonH

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    I dont disagree as long as you have a “real” residence or business in the state of registration. The problem arises when someone creates a “sham” residence or business for the purpose of justifying the state of registration. This is the typical structure of the Montana scheme where somebody creates an LLC in Montana for the sole purpose of owning and registering the car in Montana and has no other connection with the state. Here is an article that discusses that. The same logic applies to registration in other states of convenience as well.

    https://jalopnik.com/the-pitfalls-of-the-montana-license-plate-scam-1711216059
     
  10. Flyingbrick242

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    Its no wonder people are leaving this state in droves.!
    If these vehicles that have been impounded were minding their own business this is nothing short of harassment.!
    Cant wait to move out!
     
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  11. TUTTSF

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    I went to car week in Montery in my 458 with Montana plates and had several CHP behind me as we were in a rally from LA to car week and no issues.

    Now if I got pulled for speeding maybe they would question me.
     
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  13. RonH

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    I suspect you got lucky because the CHP is generally well aware of the out of state plate registration scam and Montana is the poster child for that. If you don't think the CHP cares, here is the CHP web site to report cheaters.

    https://www.chp.ca.gov/notify-chp/cheaters-out-of-state-(out-of-state-registration-violators)

    Note the lead in statement is: “Did you know that the State of California loses millions of dollars a year in revenue from California residents who unlawfully register their vehicles in other states or countries?”
     
  14. cls

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    FWIW, CA is not unique. Plenty of states do this.
     
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  15. miketuason

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    Legally out of state vehicle and even out of the country vehicles can be driven in CA for 30 days, after that you have to show proof of residency or business.
     
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  16. jlonmark

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    “Did you know that the State of California loses millions of dollars a year in revenue from California residents who unlawfully register their vehicles in other states or countries?”

    But how many millions do they make by taxing the used cars to death and raping everybody on gas, tickets, registration, tolls, tows, etc. Yeah, a 250 GTO sells for $70million of course they want their $7,000,000 in sales tax. Of course at that point you probably wouldn't worry about the $
     
  17. migg48

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    The other option, of course, is to restore some degree of sanity to this state and replace the lunatics in Sacramento with adults.
     
  18. RonH

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    Unfortunately not a real option. CA is lurching further and further left and imposing higher and higher taxes. Not likely to change anytime soon.

    Just look at SF, the training ground for most of the current senior state politicians, including the governor. Used to be a great city to go for a weekend get away. Now the politicians have turned it into a homeless encampment/sanctuary city that you have a decent chance of being robbed or killed in while you wend you way through the piles of garbage in Union Square. My worry is they will make the state one big SF (we are already a “sanctuary state”). I know this sounds like “P&R” but how is any of it not factually correct?
     
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  19. dustman

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    Sfo is still safe and easy to navigate via car or on foot. Same as always.
     
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  20. 1monza

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    In SF, you just need to watch where you step.
     
  21. Rifledriver

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    Never happen. In 2011 when Jerry Brown was brought back for his second rein of terror we knew California had passed the tipping point and was not coming back. The demographics had changed too much. That is when we started our exit plan. After 58 years we left and feel the kind of relief you feel when swimming away from a sinking ship. You ain't seen nothing yet. I went back to Nor Cal for the first time in 5 years recently and couldn't believe how bad it is.
     
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  22. Rifledriver

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    And in fact CHP has been doing it for quite a few years at the behest of Sacramento.
     

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