News

Cars that Porsche has helped design for other manufacturers?

Discussion in 'Porsche' started by Ryan S., May 8, 2016.

  1. Ryan S.

    Ryan S. Two Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Mar 20, 2004
    22,242
    Anyone have a list of somewhere? I know they have had their hands in many a project.
     
  2. To remove this ad click here.

  3. ypsilon

    ypsilon Formula 3

    May 4, 2008
    2,287
    Not sure it qualifies as a list:

    Philips Porsche design water kettle.
     
  4. bbs911

    bbs911 Formula Junior

    May 31, 2007
    585
    Dallas
    Mercedes 500E
     
  5. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    32,731
    Huntsville, AL., USA
    Full Name:
    Andrew
    Really?

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  6. TKO

    TKO Formula Junior

    Oct 22, 2004
    790
    SoCal
    Full Name:
    Tom Kearns
  7. To remove this ad click here.

  8. mclaudio

    mclaudio Formula 3

    Dec 13, 2003
    1,146
    Seattle area
    Full Name:
    Claudio
    Yes, W124 series 500E or E500.


    Regarding other cars, does the original VW Beetle count as Porsche-designed? 😉
     
  9. zygomatic

    zygomatic F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 19, 2008
    3,400
    Washington, DC
    Full Name:
    Chris
    #7 zygomatic, May 8, 2016
    Last edited: May 8, 2016
    Audi RS2
    Volkswagen Touareg
     
  10. ypsilon

    ypsilon Formula 3

    May 4, 2008
    2,287
    Yes really, Porsche helped develop the 500E and handbuild it at their factory. Furthermore;

    - Audi RS2
    - VW/Porsche 914
    - Seat Ibiza 1st gen (engine)
    - VW T3 Caravelle

    All displayed at the Porsche museum in Stuttgart, Germany.






    And the Philips Porsche design water kettle ofourse....

    (like the Porsche 911, a water cooker).

    ;)
     
  11. To remove this ad click here.

  12. nickd

    nickd Formula Junior

    Nov 20, 2006
    991
    Landenberg PA
    Full Name:
    Nick Dunlop
    Harley Davison VRod - if I recall correctly
     
  13. nickd

    nickd Formula Junior

    Nov 20, 2006
    991
    Landenberg PA
    Full Name:
    Nick Dunlop
    Heck, I was at Weissach back in 98 March timeframe and swear I saw a Buick badged car. However, I was more interested in sitting in GT1 001 - which a very kind gent allowed me to do ... I saw he same gent at Monterey Historics that same year and he was driving a Buick .... coincidence ???
     
  14. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    32,731
    Huntsville, AL., USA
    Full Name:
    Andrew

    For some reason, I just never imagined Mercedes and Porsche collaborating. I'm amazed and enlightened. Thanks guys. :)

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  15. definitelysomeday

    definitelysomeday Formula Junior

    Aug 7, 2009
    606
    Ft. Lauderdale
    Full Name:
    Tom Kavan
    Porsche wasn't doing well, so Benz gave them a project to make some money on. 1990-1994 I think
     
  16. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    Check post #5.... before yours.
     
  17. jlonmark

    jlonmark F1 Rookie

    Mar 29, 2005
    2,956
    Beverly Hills, CA
    Full Name:
    Jay
  18. classic308

    classic308 F1 Veteran

    Jan 9, 2004
    6,019
    Westchester, NY
    Full Name:
    Paul
    Yes all true P needed the $ back then as they weren't churning out SUVs back then. Soon enuf P would be busy enuf to ship some boxster production to Finland.
     
  19. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    Ha... very good.
     
  20. jlonmark

    jlonmark F1 Rookie

    Mar 29, 2005
    2,956
    Beverly Hills, CA
    Full Name:
    Jay
    I only know this since I ended up buying a 59 model 603. It's an odd bird for sure. But, it has a rear engine, air cooled V8. Talk about cool. I guess Ferdinand designed the cars in the 20s/30s before starting VW. From what I've read, Porshe still did consulting for tatra and there was even a big lawsuit that was settled a few years ago
     
  21. tritone

    tritone F1 Veteran
    Silver Subscribed

    Dec 8, 2003
    5,413
    On the Rock
    Full Name:
    James
    Over the last 10 years, Porsche has done design & consulting for quite a few Asian mfrs, incl Hyundai and Chery (China).
     
  22. william

    william F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    17,313
    England
    Full Name:
    William Denoyelles

    Not correct I am afraid.

    Tatra were designed by Hans Ledwinka from whom Ferdinand Porsche took inspiration to design the orginal pre-war Beetle. Rear engine and air cooled system, were Ledwinka trademark.

    The problem was that Ledwinka was in Czechoslovakia and Porsche in Germany. Czechoslovakia was invaded by the Germans who poached most of the design and engineering they could get their hands on during their occupation. The Tatra 77 and 87 became staff cars for German officers. They were technically years ahead of German cars. Porsche used a Tatra project for a small car to create the Beetle.

    The lawsuit you mentioned was in fact initiated post-war by the Czech government against Volkswagen for infringement of copyright, theft of intellectual property, etc...
    Years later, when the Iron Curtain fell, VW settled.

    Hans Ledwinka remained largely unknown all his life and is one of the unsung hero of European auto industry.
     
  23. william

    william F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 3, 2006
    17,313
    England
    Full Name:
    William Denoyelles
    Renault 4CV

    During his time in prison just, after WWII, Dr Ferdinand Porsche was asked by the French to check the plans for their forthcoming small car.
    The French government had confiscated and nationalised Louis Renault's factory and wanted to launch a popular car for the masses.

    The layout had already been decided, as well as the engine, but Dr Porsche influenced the body shape and other details. The Renault 4CV bears a slight resemblamce with the Beetle.

    and what about the TAG engine raced for a few seasons by the McLaren F1 team.

    also the Porsche syncromesh gearbox was licensed to several constructors.
     
  24. Tcar

    Tcar F1 Rookie

    Always thought the 4CV was a handsome little car.
     
  25. absent

    absent F1 Veteran
    Lifetime Rossa

    Nov 2, 2003
    8,536
    illinois
    Full Name:
    mark k.
  26. Hugh Conway

    Hugh Conway Karting

    Jul 24, 2012
    140
    Mercedes-Benz SS/SSK
    Auto-Union V-16 Grand Prix cars
    A number of German WW2 tanks and vehicles
     
  27. FrostyAK

    FrostyAK Formula Junior

    Aug 6, 2005
    642
    Anchorage, AK
    They had a hand in the Subaru Legacy Blitzen.
     

Share This Page