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CEL on '96 355

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  1. BlackCobra

    BlackCobra Karting

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    So, tonight I started the car, went inside for a few to let it warm up. It is fairly cold outside - probably low 40's at the time.

    When I came back out - probably 6-8 minutes later, the car was getting warm inside when I climbed in, and I noticed a light on - check engine.

    I decided to take it for a drive - as originally intended - and it did not go off.

    My question - should I:

    1. Self-diagnose? If so, can I use a scanner like my newer cars?
    2. Drive it to the dealer, rather than risk any damage? (read plenty of accounts of ruined engines).
    3. Load it on a flatbed and be ultra-safe?

    Thoughgts?
     
  2. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    Assuming you had the update performed on the OBDII socket on the car, any OBDII code reader will work fine. Are all the recalls and updates current on the car?
     
  3. BlackCobra

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    Good question - it is a '99 engine. Dont know what else was updated with it. Im going to pop my scanner on it in the morning.
     
  4. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ Owner Rossa Subscribed

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    I am talking about recalls and updates since the car was manufactured. The OBDII socket was purposely wired by Ferrari so a standard OBDII code reader would not work. The Feds found out and Ferrari started fixing them in 2006 for free. Basically they add an additional ground wire to the plug. There is also a recall for the fuel injection distribution block. Hopefully you have all the records when you bought the car?
     
  5. BlackCobra

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    I do have the records - all recalls were performed, according to the servicing dealer. I'll pull the code in the AM when it is light.
     
  6. f355spider

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    Excellent, post up the codes and we can help you with what they are. Note that they are proprietary, and not the same as the generic codes you will find online.

    No one has the F355 P code list, but the F360 list is posted up on this forum in multiple threads and most of them appear to be the same as the F360.
     
  7. davehelms

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    Careful....
     
  8. f355spider

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    Perhaps I should qualify my statement that the F355 p-code list is not posted in the public domain anywhere that I can find... ;)

    Surely someone has it, they just are not sharing it publicly.
     
  9. hammer1

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    Why should he "be careful' I dont understand that?
     
  10. davehelms

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    Just a joke, no offence intended.
     
  11. hammer1

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    no no, I just didnt know if they were NOT suppose to be posted or something, no worries.
     
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    MOTRONIC M 2.7 Self-testing Function Codes


    Hot wire air flow meter 1111 S
    Engine coolant temp. sensor 1112 S
    Throttle potentiometer 1113 S
    Lambda sensor 1114 S
    Lambda regulation 1121 S
    Additive value for self-adaptation lambda regulation 1212 S
    Mulplicative value for self-adaptation lambda regulation 1212 S
    TRA value for self-adaptation lambda regulation 1212 S
    Intake manifold compensation valve 4111 N
    Injection valve n. 1 1411 S
    Injection valve n. 2 1412 S
    Injection valve n. 3 1413 S
    Injection valve n. 4 1414 S
    RPM sensor 1121 S
    Stroke sensor 4112 N
    Power module not used 4113 N
    Battery voltage 1122 S
    TDC control unit recognition 4114 N
    Secondary air solenoid valve 1123 S
    Purge valve 1124 S
    Catalyzer temperature ECU 4121 N
    Catalyzer temperature too high 4122 N
    Speedometer signal 4123 N
    Short circuit on idle regulator 1311 S
    Open circuit on idle regulator 1312 S
    No error detected 4444 N
    M. I. L. 1444 S
    Electronic control unit (ECU) 1313 S
    Compressor connection signal 4131 N
     
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  13. f355spider

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    OP has 5.2 Motronic, not 2.7...
     
  14. BlackCobra

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    Update: I went out to the garage with scanner in-hand yesterday, only to find that there is no OBDII port in the car :|

    I came back inside and got on FerrariChat to figure out where the port is located [I hadn't climbed under the dash]. I'll need to pull the car out of the garage to sprawl out and find it, as I can't open the door all the way where it is parked now.

    Snow on the ground, but hopefully it won't stick long; I'll pull the codes and post my findings...
     
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    Scott, send me an email (not private message) and I will assist you.

    Dave
     
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    Hey Guys.

    Went out for a drive today. After about 45 minutes and probably 30 miles (some highway and some surface streets) of relatively easy driving, the Check Engine Light came on. All of the gauges looked OK, so I drove her home (probably 4 miles or so). Everything looks OK. I let the car sit for 30 minutes or so (thinking that maybe it was fluke) and start it. The CEL came on and stayed on.

    Any ideas? I'm not a competent DIY'er...yet.
     
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    Hi Jeff, you'll need to borrow or purchase an OBD-II scan tool. They sell them at Autozone and most major autoparts stores. The scan tool give you the ability to read the fault code that is stored in the car's computer and then extinguish the check engine light.

    The OBD-II access port on your car should be located under the dashboard, to the right of the steering column, above the gas pedal. Make sure your alarm is off and then follow the instructions included with the scan tool to operate it and determine what the fault codes are.
    Post up what you fault codes are here on the forum and someone may be able to help you.

    Good luck!
     
  18. BlackCobra

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    And, 2 months later, I have returned with code-in-hand:)

    I pulled P1148 - any ideas? I can't find much/any info on it.
     
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    Where is the the code reader connection on a 2.7? Thank you.
     
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    From the 360 codes, P1148 = Input Signals for Charging Detection (Bank 2) Malfunction (min/max)
     
  21. BlackCobra

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    Interesting. I cleared the code and will see if it comes back!

    Cheers.
     

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