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Ceramic coating of the headers?

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  1. alhbln

    alhbln Formula 3
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    Since the engine is out for a rebuild at the moment i was pondering if i should have the headers ceramic coated to lower the temperature in the engine compartment a bit.
    Any experience with this in a Dino?

    Thanks,
    Adrian
     
  2. champtc

    champtc Formula Junior

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    I did this with my 246 GTS and had them done in dull silver. They look great & work just fine. I dont know if it reduces temperatures but they claim that it does. I had the headers done in a chrome finish on my 246 GT and they look great but are not yet installed. The place that did them in the US is Jet Hot coatings. It certainly cleans up the look of them.
     
  3. Dinoguy2

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    I had my headers ceramic coated (inside and out)as part of the restoration of my Dino. The process was identical to Jet Hot Coatings. I had them done in bright silver in 2006 and the finish has not changed a bit since then. The restorer claims that the ceramic coating has reduced engine compartment temperatures by 50 degrees F. I have a friend who tells me that the reduction in temperature in his Dino's engine compartment is even more than that. There may also be a slight performance enhancement.

    I highly recommend this process. Regards, Bob.
     
  4. synchro

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    Definitely worth it and only $200 at my local performance coatings.
    You will preserve the original from rusting out, lengthening its life and reduce underhood temperatures.
    I chose Grey Satin Ice.
     
  5. TKO

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    #5 TKO, Feb 22, 2011
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    I had mine done as well. I don't recall the name of the color but it is sort of a pencil grey... 'graphite' would describe it best.
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  6. alhbln

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    Guys, thanks for your input! I'll go for this and have the headers coated, found a local (actually 200 miles to the north) company today that specializes in ceramic coating.
     
  7. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Its worth doing a bit of reading up on this - there are different ways of doing it & not all produce the same result. Some are not much more than paint, some are much much more. (i.e. www.zircotec.co.uk)
     
  8. alhbln

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  9. pk246gt

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    Also thinking of completing this task while the engine is still out during reno so would love to know...

    Was there a 'standard' colour on the headers as the Dino's rolled off the production line, and/or are the colours selected by different guys based purely on personal taste?
     
  10. 246tasman

    246tasman Formula 3

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    Absolutely right. I had my front engine V12 headers done by Zircotec (cost around £1000/$1600) and the reduction in footwell temperature is incredible compared to the VHT ceramic painted headers I had previously. Worth every penny.
     
  11. dignini

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    Where does the heat go? Out the back? Or the heads.
    If out the back, any detrimental effect on the exhaust boxes? If the heads any effect there?
     
  12. alhbln

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    I think that the factory headers were not treated and had a natural metal color, my choice was to go for one of the available ceramic colors which would be as neutral as possible.
     
  13. Dino Club Germany

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    The heat is trapped inside the headers when they are ceramic coated.
    The effect is the same as with isolation tape around.
    As the head stays inside the headers, it moved to the silencers and the out.
    I agree to use the most original looking colour, the technical improment
    to the whole engine compartment with the temperature reduction is without
    question.
     
  14. dignini

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    Ok so it all goes to the Through the exhaust which must get hotter, so more insulation for the trunk(boot) floor?
     
  15. synchro

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    Wonderful coatings!

    These will make the original headers last longer.


    BTW, the heat exits the compartment through the exhaust and out into the atmosphere, that is where the reduced engine bay temps go.
     
  16. pk246gt

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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pk246gt
    Also thinking of completing this task while the engine is still out during reno so would love to know...

    Was there a 'standard' colour on the headers as the Dino's rolled off the production line, and/or are the colours selected by different guys based purely on personal taste?

    I think that the factory headers were not treated and had a natural metal color, my choice was to go for one of the available ceramic colors which would be as neutral as possible.

    Thanks Adrian,
    They look good!

    I'll be having mine done also.
    Regards, Paul
     
  17. dignini

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    Is this a "special" ceramic coating?
    It is UK (England) based, anything this side of the pond?
    As an aside, I was told by Customs not to use UK as my place of birth, as it now stands for UKRAINE!
     
  18. alhbln

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    Its a high temperature resistant ceramic coating for exhausts and headers called Cerakote, made by an US company (NIC Industries). The datasheet lists a maximum temperature of up to 1100ºC/2000ºF. The coating is applied to the in- and outside of the headers, had this done by a company in the north of Germany.
     
  19. dignini

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    thank you
     
  20. synchro

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    Looks wonderful but why did you use cap bolts for one fastener on both cylinders 5 & 6 at the heat shield?
     

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