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  1. mpdugas

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    #1 mpdugas, Feb 23, 2019
    Naive question, I know, but if a used Ferrari is sold by a Ferrari dealership as a Ferrari Certified pre-owned, do I need to get a PPI before committing to buy, or would a copy of the service records, which is part of the Ferrari pre-owned program, as far as I know, suffice?
     
  2. Viperjoe

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    #2 Viperjoe, Feb 23, 2019
    Interesting question. I purchased a CPO 458 from Algar Ferrari and did so without a PPI. I had tremendous trust and confidence in the folks at Algar and the thought of getting a PPI never entered my mind. If you’re working with a high integrity, trust worthy dealer such as Algar, in my opinion you probably do not need a PPI.


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  3. mpdugas

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    #3 mpdugas, Feb 23, 2019
    I can just imagine their reaction to a request for a PPI of a certified Ferrari...which is what prompted my question generally.
     
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    #4 bball16, Feb 23, 2019
    I’ve purchased 3 Fcars that came with the power warranty. As far as I know the cars have to go through a ppi by their service department before Ferrari issues the warranty.
     
  5. flash32

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    #5 flash32, Feb 23, 2019
    The only reason I would have a non-dealer ppi with a good Indy is for the stuff the dealer is not looking at .. damage from an accident for example

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  6. mpdugas

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    #6 mpdugas, Feb 23, 2019
    It's a bit more complex than I thought, at first sight; individual Ferrari's are deemed 'eligible' for warranty by the factory, but for just what tier of coverage, and for what additional cost, is individualistic to the car under consideration.

    Age and mileage has a lot to do with what you'll get offered, so it's not necessarily a panacea for a PPI; I've seen many Ferrari service booklets saying one thing was done, and the physical evidence covered by those documented services saying quite another story, so I think I'll stick with an expert's opinion before buying.

    The car I'm looking at is a 2008 model, so it's getting close to the end of the 14 year envelope.

    Like I said, it was a naive question.
     
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    #7 ridege55, Feb 24, 2019
    I purchased a certified 599 from Ferrari of San Diego. I did not do a PPI, however they were very receptive to me having one done by an independent if I wanted. A few months have passed and this is my experience with buying certified. The certified definitely focuses more on the mechanicals than the cosmetics. For my car to be certified, a new clutch, tires, and battery were installed. Also, a check list was performed (seemed a little superficial). However since owing the car and putting 1.5k miles on, it has driven wonderfully (I hope I did not jinx myself). Now about the cosmetics. At the time of purchase I did not spend much time evaluating but I have done the following since: reglued headliner, fixed stretching leather on dash, replaced sticky buttons, repaired window seal, fixed stretched leather on rear shelf, and a few other odds and ends. I figured a certified car would have addressed or pointed out these items, but it it was left up to me. Some of these items I noticed at time of purchase but others not. There are a few other items I need to attend to but all cosmetic again.

    Maybe if you get a PPI these things will get pointed out and you can negotiate a better deal. At least that was what I was thinking... No regrets though and loving my V12. Oh yeah, you can by an extended warranty with it certified. It was $6k per year for a V12.
     
  8. mpdugas

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    #8 mpdugas, Feb 24, 2019
    I'm going to ask for an opportunity to do a conventional PPI as well as have a professional detailer take a look, too, to try to catch those kinds of 'soft' items that could be included in negotiations, like evidence of repainting, etc. or the need for paint restoration or signs of contamination.

    Thanks for mentioning those kinds of problems; if you have to spend money to rehabilitate, that ought to be part of the conversation about pricing.

    I appreciate your reminding me to remember to look at that, too.
     
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    #9 flash32, Feb 24, 2019
    Good choice .. now ask the forum for a great Indy near you and being it there .. they will so you right

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  10. ridege55

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    #10 ridege55, Feb 24, 2019
    One other point, they will not release all the service records. Dealership will site privacy issues. I was only able to get records for the last year. However if you register the car on the Ferrari site under “My Ferrari”, you can get some high level detail of when the car was serviced at the dealership and the mileage. The info on my 599 went back to 2009.
     
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    #11 RonH, Feb 25, 2019
    I would always have a PPI done on any used car whether buying from a Ferrari dealer or not and whether a CPO or not. I wouldn’t care if they didn’t like it (they will agree if they want to sell it and if they wont then you cant afford to buy it).

    As an aside, generally I find that Ferrari dealers are not necessarily the best in determining, disclosing or fixing issues and I would not rely on any PPI done by a Ferrari dealer.

    I bought a Ferrari from a Florida individual (on consignment at a Lambo dealer). I thought that having a PPI done by the Ferrari dealer that had serviced the car for its whole life would be a good idea. Wrong! After they gave their glowing PPI I had a friend drive the car before I actually came out and he thought the car had issues. So I had a second independent PPI done and found some issues that were easily repairable and significantly affected price (but which clearly should have been found in the first PPI if they drove the car—can you imagine, the Florida Ferrari dealer said that even though it was a Ferrari PPI they actually never drove the car and that is why they missed the issues!).

    Out here on the west coast I subsequently had a Ferrari dealer that was unable to determine the cause of and to address a smog issue. Ultimately I had an independent fix the problem.

    Generally I believe Ferrari dealers are merely in it to sell cars and they are not that good on the PPI/service/repair side. So beware and always use an independent for a PPI.
     

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