Chairs and flares GTS going to auction next month

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  1. Bluebottle

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    Interesting lot:

    https://www.rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/NY17/New-York---ICONS/lots/r006-1974-ferrari-dino-246-gts-by-scaglietti/544594

    Personally, I don't like these cars: the flares look "stuck on", rather crude, and I prefer Cromodoras to Campagnolos. Just my personal taste, however. Having said that, I do like the Daytona-style seats - cool. :)

    One thing puzzles me. The "original factory toolkit" looks unfamiliar to me: was this different because it is US spec., or because it is a GTS (I have a UK spec. GT)? Or is the auctioneer telling a porky?

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    Bluebottle (John) -

    You have the Dino Compendium by Matthias Bartz, right? In there you will see what original Dino tool kits look like and how they differ over the years. The kit shown is not correct for this car at all. The jack is wrong, as are the tools, the tire iron, the wrenches/spanners, the pliers, the case - everything, except (and only possibly because I can't tell from the photo) - the carb key.
     
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    Yes I do, but at my other house, so unable to check my recollection just now, which is why I asked. Pretty poor show by allegedly reputable auctioneer IMO.
     
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    Yes, the tools and jack are all wrong for this car. I don't see the holes in the rocker panels for the Dino style jack, although it is hard to see on the photos. That could be a reason for the scissor type jack. Actually a better, safer jack for the car, but of course not original.
    Also, the documents folder and several of the documents are missing. The cigarette lighter seems to have been replaced by the more conventional type. Minor detail, perhaps, but the original type is not easy to find. And, of course, those Ferrari badges have to go.

    The overall condition of the car seems, well, fairly acceptable. Cars like these always make me a bit uncomfortable, though. To me, this car looks "gussied up" for resale rather than comprehensively restored as the description says. Anyone considering bidding on this car should give it a very close look - in person - first, I think.

    Apparently, this car was sold at an RM auction in 2013 for $390,500. I think the seller will be hard pressed to match that price today. The estimated price (500 to 600K) sounds much too high to me. This is not 2013 / 2014 anymore. But of course, I could be wrong...
     
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    "Today, the odometer reads little more than 19,000 documented miles from new."

    Odometer actually reads 20931 miles in the picture for the upcoming auction. Maybe they repeated the info from the previous 2013 sale?
     
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    Just checked. Although updated, some of the text was lifted from the description of the car for the August, 2013 sale at Monterey, including the mileage information.
     
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    None of these tools are correct! The flairs are "stuck on" as pointed out, made very few and gets a lot more money for it!!
     
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    No sale. High bid $480,00.
     
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    Given that that is within a hair's breadth of the low estimate, I should not be surprised if a deal is put together.
     
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    I'm sure you're right if it was a genuine bid and not from the house. During the auction the incorrect mileage of 19,000 was quoted, not the now indicated closer to 21,000.
     
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    Good point. I wonder if, had a sale been achieved, the buyer would have sued the auctioneer for misdescription in re the "original factory toolkit".
     
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    It is an “original factory toolkit”.

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