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Challenge wheel offsets

Discussion in '348/355' started by F355Bob, Dec 7, 2015.

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  1. F355Bob

    F355Bob Formula 3

    Does anybody know what the Challenge wheel offsets are for a 355? My car is in winter storage so can't get at it to measure. Thanks
     
  2. SoCal1

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    I have a set in the back of my truck right now I will measure later today
     
  3. sherpa23

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    60mm front and 80mm rear
     
  4. SoCal1

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    I don't know how folks remember stuff I forget how to tie my shoes LOL
     
  5. F355Bob

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    Thanks guys
     
  6. Robbe

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    Mine have 10 mm less, like 50 and 70
     
  7. sherpa23

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    #7 sherpa23, Dec 7, 2015
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    Here is my chart. I found the wheels to correlate to my chart. I have a set on my Challenge car and have owned 9 sets. They all have been identical.
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  8. SoCal1

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    I just measured min

    Sherpa23 chart is correct for the 355 challenge wheels
     
  9. SoCal1

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    I just measured min

    Sherpa23 chart is correct for the 355 challenge wheels
     
  10. tazandjan

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    Here is my chart. Will add the F355 Challenge wheels. Looks like you have a few I do not and vice-versa.


    Ferrari OEM Wheel Sizes


    5 X 114.3 mm Bolt Pattern

    612

    Five Spoke F 18”, R 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 18 ET 43.5 mm , R 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm
    Five Spoke Modulars 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 51.1 mm
    Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 51.1 mm

    599/HGTE/SA Aperta

    Five Spoke F 19”, R 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 19 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm
    Challenge Monolithic 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 20 ET 43.5 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm
    HGTE/SA Aperta Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 40 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 63.8 mm

    599 GTO

    Five V/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 9.5J x 20” ET 38 mm, Rear 11.5J x 20” ET 63 mm

    California

    Pentagram Forged 19”, 5 X 114.3 mm.
    Front 8J X 19 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 52.5 mm
    V Spoke Forged 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8J X 20 ET 44 mm, Rear 10J X 20 ET 52.5 mm

    458

    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5mm, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 58.5 mm

    458 Speciale

    Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 9J X 20 ET 44.7 mm, Rear 11J X 20 ET 48.4 mm

    FF

    Five Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 8.5J X 20 ET 46.5, Rear 10.5J X 20 ET 53.4 mm

    F12

    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 9.5J X 20 ET 48.4 mm, Rear 11.5J X 20 ET 71.6 mm

    488

    Five/Ten Spoke 20”, 5 X 114.3 mm
    Front 9J X 20 ET TBD, Rear 11J X 20 ET TBD




    5 X 108 mm Bolt Pattern

    Testarossa

    Five Spoke 16”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8J x 16 ET 34.2 mm, Rear 10J x 16 ET 59.6 mm

    512 TR/F512M

    Five Spoke 18”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8J x 18 ET 46 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 81.75 mm

    348

    Five Spoke 17” Early, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 17 ET 49 mm, Rear 9J X 17 ET 68 mm
    Five Spoke 17” Late, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 17 ET 49 mm, Rear 9J X 17 ET 43.05 mm

    355

    Five Spoke 18”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 18 ET 32 mm, Rear 10J X 18 ET 77.9 mm

    456 GT/456M

    Five Spoke 17”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8.5J X 17 ET 50 mm, Rear 10J X 17 ET 24.6mm

    360

    Five Spoke and Modular 18”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 18 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 18 ET 38.95 mm

    360 Challenge

    Challenge Monolithic 18”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8J X 18 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 39.95 mm

    360 Challenge Stradale

    Challenge Monolithic 19”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm

    550/575M/Superamerica

    550/575M Five Spoke/Modular 18”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8.5J X 18 ET 43.65 mm, Rear 10.5J X 18 ET 32 mm
    575M/575 Superamerica Five Spoke Modular 19”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8.5J X 19 ET 43.6 mm, Rear 10.5J X 19 ET 32 mm

    F430

    Five (Ten) Spoke, Challenge Monolithic, Scuderia Style 19”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 7.5J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm

    F430 Challenge

    Challenge Monolithic, Center Lock
    Front 8J X 19 H2 Center Lock, Rear 10.5J X 19 H2 Center Lock

    Scuderia/16M

    10 Spoke, Five Spoke 19”, 5 X 108 mm
    Front 8J X 19 ET 31.5 mm, Rear 10J X 19 ET 39 mm
     
  11. sherpa23

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    Thanks, Terry. I have a lot of those in another chart but this has some new ones. Thanks.
     
  12. Robbe

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  13. Robbe

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    what do you think about this:
    Normal 355 front rim is 7.5 J with offset 32. Challenge is 8J and offset 60
    What is the effect:
    Challenge rim is 0.5inch wider, with half that coming to the outside (so only 6mm wider track each side/ more facing outwards.)
    But the offset difference is 60-32 = 28 mm, making the track 28 mm smaller on each side (wheel more away from wheelarch/fender).
    So each Challenge wheel in total is 28-6 = 22 mm more facing inwards, away from the wheelarch.

    That does not sound right, does it?

    I know that you can use a 2cm wider front tire , gaining 1 cm to the outside, but still the challenge wheel would stand 1 cm away from the fender compared to the normal wheel.
     
  14. SoCal1

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  15. F355Bob

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    I am confused. My Challenge wheels have a rear offset of 80. I use a 15mm spacer so the offset is really 65. This brings the wheel right to the edge of the wheelwell maybe slightly beyond. Junglistuder has 19 x 10 rears that look perfect on his car but his offset is 52 which is 13mm, more that 1/2 inch further out than mine yet his wheel does not go beyond the fender. How can these offsets be so different with the same result?
     
  16. Robbe

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    Could it be that early cars have a different hub than later cars?
    My 95 wheels have a lower offset than most challenge wheels it seems. So maybe the early cars needed a lower offset, and the car you are referring to is also an early one?
    And yours a later one?
     

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