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Chances of a 400 passing CA smog?

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by Choptop, Nov 18, 2008.

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  1. Choptop

    Choptop F1 Rookie

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  2. brettski

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    #2 brettski, Nov 19, 2008
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    got your PM. i've replyed with my phone number so we can talk.

    any 6 carb set-up (or 4 carb for that matter) will 'struggle' with CA regulations unless you have a whole bunch of gear on there designed to help it 'pass'. i just dismantled a 308 out of California and could not believe the array of add-ons that were there for the sole purpose of meeting CA standards . US emission standards, from what i understand, is why 400/400i weren't imported in the first place. therefore, i think you should be considering a '75 or earlier for California. that gives you 2 options where 2+2's are concerned, both of which you've been considering... you just need to look at earlier versions of what you seem to be in the market for anyway.

    rather than the 400 you've asked me about or the series 2 Dino's you've looked at, you should look for the pre-'76 versions of both.i have a '74 Dino GT4, a '75 factory Ferrari badged 308 GT4 and a '73 365 GT4 that are going through, or about to go through, 'THE PROCESS', which includes paint, motor, tranny and whatever else it is that you want or don't want, based on budget or your desire to do-it-yourself later. you 'spec' out what you want and we do it. that's the program i offer.
     
  3. koisokok

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    #3 koisokok, Nov 20, 2008
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    just as i read the post i open my dmw renewal notice..and in bold letters on the left "SMOG certification" ..those two years went quick!!! p.s. NONE!!.lol
     
  4. Rifledriver

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    #4 Rifledriver, Nov 20, 2008
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    The tail pipe test is easy if the motor is in otherwise good condition, it's done all the time. It just needs the equipment listed in either the papers or the door sticker. Typically they had air injection, cats and Lambda. They will pass tail pipe with just cats but the paperwork will almost certainly require the other items as well.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    That is just not true. Making that car smog legal was and is a slam dunk. They were not imported because they were never intended to be built in large numbers so the expense of making them both EPA AND DOT compliant was just not worth the cost of not only conversion but testing also, not when they could sell every single car planned in other markets. If you are well versed in CIS era cars you would know making them pass the most stringent smog requirements was extremely easy and cheap when done on a small scale. It is when an auto manufacturer does it and has to go through all the certification and warranty requirements that the per unit costs get stupid.
     
  6. fatbillybob

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    It depends on what you really mean. Passing is easy if the motor is in good shape and has the stuff it is suposed to have. Same applys if the car is a gray car with CA title and past smog history. Complying could be a different story if you are trying to get a non-Calif. car CA legal as in going though the bar ref to get a CA approved BAR label so you can smog it at any CA smog station.
    You will need to jump more hoops to do the later.
     
  7. brettski

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    Cats, Lambda, CIS ??? he didn't ask about a 400i and the second quote only confirms what i said..."it was not worth it" to comply.

    so, what are the "Chances of a 400 passing CA smog" ?
     
  8. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    You're correct. I wrongly assumed the topic was an injected car. Lots of those made it to California.

    Always preferred the injected car anyway.
     
  9. 410SA

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    It's probably cheaper and quicker to apply for a dealer license and run it on dealer plates :)
     
  10. brettski

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    really ? wow. that's quite an endorsement for the injected car coming from someone with your experience. would you elaborate ?
    good one,that's funny.
     
  11. brettski

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    thanks for dropping by...very informative, really...
     
  12. 2dinos

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    Call the lab. I have to go, and am clinging closely to their recommendations. I'll know a lot more after the adventure.

    Best of luck
     

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